Thinking about getting a R2R DAC


Dear community,

I currently have a chord qutest DAC. I like it a lot, very full sound, accurate detailed and exciting.  However, whenever I go back to vinyl (with a well-recorded nice pressing) I find the sound so much more satisfying.  There is a warmth, yes, but there is a presence, a 'there-ness' that I just don't get with the digital.  I'm wondering if an R2R DAC would get me closer to that?  my budget would be around the same as the qutest.  I was looking at the MHDT Orchid or the Border Patrol.  Don't get me wrong, I really like the Qutest.  I am thinking of putting it in the upstairs system to pair with the Node2i I have up there.  Any thoughts?  Will analog always just be a different animal than digital?

Currently in the main system I have a Sonore uRendu feeding the Qutest which is going to a LTA MZ2 going to a Pass XA 30.5

thanks!
adam8179
I have noticed that older audiophiles seem more attracted to NOS DACs.  I suspect the artifacts compensate for loss of high frequencies that can give a sense of space to recordings. It bears out in the subjective opinions given.

Remember not about accuracy but what you like.
 
NOS DACs are not accurate. They used to have wicked phase issues due to the analog filters now they just have wicked aliased harmonics.
I'd just like to point out that this is hopelessly inaccurate. The OOB (out of band) signals from a NOS DAC aren't 'aliased' rather they are images. Nor are they 'harmonics' rather their frequencies are related to the difference between the sample rate and the reproduced frequency. So for example with a 10kHz signal, the OOB component (image) will be at 34.1kHz (with RBCD : 44.1k - 10k).
What do you think aliasing is? Please don"t tell other people they are hopelessly inaccurate when you don’t know the subject matter.


https://ieeexplore.ieee.org/document/5495907

More your level see paragraph 2.


https://sonobat.com/understanding-aliasing/
It matters not one iota what I think a thing is. Aliasing is what happens when an ADC digitizes a signal with frequencies beyond half its sample rate. Aliasing has nothing to do with DACs its entirely an ADC phenomenon.

Took a look at the IEEE link, its entirely in harmony with what I'm saying here. To wit they say :

This paper is concerned with undoing aliasing effects. Such effects arise from discretely sampling a continuous-time stochastic process.
'Sampling' is what an ADC does.
Accusing people of being deaf, especially old audiophiles, is not an argument because too much people are included; and assimilating numbers to phenomenon and reducing them to it dogmatically is more than bad science it is bad philosophy, ignoring the structural complexities of human hearing to reduce it to some very specialized engineering field concerning a very special kind of dac, is not convincing but reflect prejudices....

I make my own controls devices for the embeddings of an audio system with great results, even being old audiophile myself, with success... I bought nothing from the market except after hearing the results.... I devise my own electrical grid device, and my own mechanical control for the speakers, and the many devices i use for active acoustical controls and not only passive one are all homemade, then the "deaf" old audiophile i am smile at your dogmas by the number and this completely free accusation....

All that comes not from super hearing capabilities but from my listenings experiments for 2 years with my ordinary ears....Audio is NOT reducible to some engineering very specialized book about some very special kind of dac....I am perhaps deaf and old but not completely gullible....

Abraxalito made great remarks .... Thanks to him.....

My best to you both....