Warm romantic & detailed


Good morning Gentlemen & ladies... 

I'm just starting to toy with idea of replacing my Focal 1038's... No matter how I treat my room, or what equipment I throw at it I just can't seem to tame the harsh highs on this speaker. 

I'd like to stay in the same price range of the Electra's (7/8k), I don't mind buying used, the musts for me at this point are: Warm, romantic, yet detailed... It would be beautiful to just sit and listen and not have ear fatigue after 15 minutes of listening. 

Can you please recommend something? 
jeffinnh76
Thank you for all your recommendations...

Prior to my Mcintosh C2600 / 452 I was a very happy Parasound JC2 / A21 owner. I found my A21 at loud volumes to clip /distort the Focal's in the midrange at high volumes. I then in-home demonstrated the JC1, Gato (class D), and some cables, new DACS...

My thought process was regarding the brightness: try a tube / solid state combo to add some warmth. That did help, or so I thought. I've spent days upon days playing around with room treatment etc etc. 

This speaker is just extremely detailed / bright, and it's very exhausting to hear.

I'm really interested in the Harbeth / Spendors mentioned, but going from so much detail to the other spectrum has me concerned. 
It should. That is why you have to be careful and listen. People will tell you that you can not listen in dealers. Sure you can. It is never optimal but I have always been able to get enough out of it to tell if I'll like the speaker or not, when I do it. I will only listen to line source dipoles which limits the market severely. But you are looking at point source dynamic loudspeakers of which there are a million. It only takes +- 1-2 dB here and there to make a speaker sound totally obnoxious. There is also a tendency for manufacturers to make "audiophile speakers" instead of neutral ones. These impress initially but get tiring. 
I can tell you what I like but I can't tell you what you like. With what you have to spend it would be a no brainer for me. I would go with Magnepan 3.7i's but maybe you don't like the look or don't have the room. I currently do not have Magnepans and have no intention of buying them in the future. But, as far as the realistic reproduction of music is concerned, in the price range you are looking in they are a cut above any box speaker I have ever heard. 
If you want absolute assurance you can get the sound you want out of a dynamix box speaker get a digital preamp like the DEQX, the Anthem STR or the Trinnov Amethyst. Then you can adjust the frequency response of the speakers any way you want without any distortion, none.
It will also help you deal with room interactions to a degree and adding a subwoofer down the line is a since because all three have digital bass management. Actually, you might even be able to adjust your Focals so you like them! All three units use impulse measurement and will show you a graph of the your systems frequency response. They will automatically generate correction filters which will get you to perfectly flat.
If that does not do the trick you can generate target curves to make the system do what you like. If you want to see how this works look at my system page. I give screenshots of all of this.  
Regarding amplification, not sure Parasound would be any warmer than your current Mc combo.  It might be a hair more forward.  Moot though.  Mentally, it sounds like you are ready to dump the Focals. 

What you will find is that Spendor and Harbeth actually deliver a ton of detail, it just isn't accomplished via a more forward tweeter like what is used in the Electra's  If you paired the Focals with very warm amplification (Naim/Conrad Johnson) you will find that they will sound natural.  Spendors paired with your amplification will sound natural.  The net result will be a similar, very detailed sound profile.  

I did a demo of the Spendor D7.2s with Naim gear and it was dark.  AVM tube gear was more forward than the Naim gear I listened on.  

An alternate is to do exactly what mijostyn is suggesting and that is run a digital EQ and turn down the high frequency response.  Or theoretically you could get an old-school graphic equalizer.  

Do you use Roon?  Roon has a digital EQ incorporated into it and could solve your issue.  
I'm extremely familiar with measurements, but don't feel that I should have to / want to trade out tride and true equipment for the sake of a bright speaker. I use REW for my theater system, and am very versed with it. Honestly I want a simple system that does not require so much toil & boil outside of the normal placement, cables etc etc... Magnapans would not work for my application 
Jeffinnh76, thanks for the additional information about your room. How much freedom do you have with speaker positioning?

My own sonic priorities are not very different from yours. Imo characteristics which contribute to "warm, romantic and detailed" without "ear fatigue after 15 minutes of listening" include:

- A frequency response curve which slopes gently downwards with rising frequency. This contributes to "warmth".

- The off-axis response tracks the direct sound very closely, as when there is a discrepancy between the two, the result can be listening fatigue.

- The ear’s sensitivity is highest around roughly 4 kHz. The region from roughly 2-5 kHz should be free from peaks, including peaks in the off-axis response. The latter is actually fairly common.

- "Romantic" implies a well-energized reverberant field, as spectrally-correct reflections convey timbral richness (which is one of the selling points of Maggies and SoundLabs). Too much absorption in the room can work against this, so one argument for speakers with smooth off-axis response is that they do not need aggressive absorption to "fix" their off-axis response.

- "Detailed" does not necessarily require an elevated or even a "flat" top-end response, but if the top end is gently downward-sloping (for the sake of warmth) then the tweeter should have high resolution to preserve inner detail.

- Imo some user adjustability of the speaker’s tonal balance can be beneficial, for adaptation to different room acoustic situations.

Duke