How to judge a preamp's sound

Hmm. So now we have the claim that:

(a) to hear what a preamp sounds like, try it with many amps and see what qualities persist through the changes.

vs.

(b) to hear what a preamp sounds like, keep the amp the same and then change between preamps to listen for the changes between preamps.

I suppose these are not necessarily at odds, though. They could be complementary?

Another option might also include

(c) Keep the preamp and amp the same, and change the tubes in the preamp only. See what qualities persist through tube changes.

I'd guess that (c) offers the least information, but it would offer some, no?

Let’s just call it a complex affair that can reach self interpreted conclusions via many different paths.

And if one had a textbook to explain it all, then it would say much the same, with some routing possibilities given in the text, for reference. Where the one attempting to apply the text is told to have a go at it.

Like driving a car. A thing, or act..which is an in-situ continual correction - that is meandering forward.

If one is trying to set such in stone, that would be fruitless, as it is not universally applicable by any measure.

Everything affects everything so there is no hard set conditionals in any of it.  And, if one makes it to the set conditionals, somehow, the whole thing is individually in parts and in the connected self altering whole (as a unified chain), then we deal with individualism and individual interpretations. 

There most definitely is a lot of hard scientific and engineering and measurement data in all of it, but the self created nature of human hearing as individuals, and the breadth of the variables in hardware and humans... ends up reducing it all to a wine tasting experience.

@teo_audio

Let’s just call it a complex affair that can reach self interpreted conclusions via many different paths.

Everything affects everything so there is no hard set conditionals in any of it.

My limited purpose was to raise for scrutiny a practice -- one metric or method -- which seemed to me to be inherently flawed. I'm no longer sure I was right, given some of the comments above, which are helping me reconsider.

I’m not sure what you mean by "self interpreted conclusions" or "no hard set conditionals."

What seems clear from what people attest to in forums, reviews, and in their living rooms is that some judgments can be made with some level of confidence, despite the multi-variable, relational, and dynamic nature of the phenomena we’re experiencing. Same thing is true with food, wine, relationships...well, everything. We’re in a Heraclitean universe (no stepping into the same river twice) and yet fire burns, sugar is sweet, and metal dome tweeters can be harsh, sometimes.

If the preamp looks really sharp it will sound fine.

@hilde45 FWIW even a cable and no preamp at all has a sound unless you jump through some hoops to prevent it doing so.


It helps to have recordings with which you are familiar. I use recordings I made myself (and have the master tapes) so I know how they are supposed to sound. But that is a luxury most people don't have, so start with recordings you've heard many times and then see how changing out a component seems to affect the sound of that recording. In a nutshell, that's how reviewers do it. This is entirely subjective so you won't get 100% consistent results. So a consensus of more ears is also helpful.