I am pretty new to all things turntable related but I think I've got all my static issues sorted with a can of GruvGlide. Maybe some expert will chime in on the long term effects of using said product, but it seems to work really well.
Is this the solution to LP static issues?? Seems to be!
Last night i was listening to a superb original RCA white dog pressing of Lena Horne and Harry Belafonte ( if you can source this, i highly recommend it!)
I noticed that all of my prior LP's were exhibiting considerable static attraction to my felt mat on my LP12. Not this one!!! How come, since the LP was played at the same time as the others, in the same system, the same room temperature etc.?? I noticed on the cover of the album the following large sticker: Miracle Surface, This record contains the revolutionary new antistatic ingredient, 317X, which helps keep the record dust free, helps prevent surface noise, helps insure faithful sound reproduction on Living Stereo.
Whatever this additive is that was put on this album back in 1959 sure works well!! Anyone know what 317X is?? Why are we NOT using this stuff today??
I noticed that all of my prior LP's were exhibiting considerable static attraction to my felt mat on my LP12. Not this one!!! How come, since the LP was played at the same time as the others, in the same system, the same room temperature etc.?? I noticed on the cover of the album the following large sticker: Miracle Surface, This record contains the revolutionary new antistatic ingredient, 317X, which helps keep the record dust free, helps prevent surface noise, helps insure faithful sound reproduction on Living Stereo.
Whatever this additive is that was put on this album back in 1959 sure works well!! Anyone know what 317X is?? Why are we NOT using this stuff today??
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Dear @daveyf : It's an unknow product, to many years ago to recovery any internet information that maybe was a" propitary "one by the LP label. https://tenwatts.blogspot.com/2008/09/317x.html?m=1 R. |
I had not cleaned this particular album recently ( I had vacuum cleaned it before a few months back), and it went through the same playing ritual as all of the other albums on the table last night. I do think the formula that was described as ‘Miracle surface’ was indeed doing what it was supposedly designed to do. As audionoobie noted, Gruv Glide does seem to work in a similar manner, but this was 317x addition was added at the time of the record manufacturing...decades ago! The Miracle surface is nothing new, I have it on several shaded and white dogs in my collection, but this time the difference in static build up was very noticeable. |
Davey, I have no idea what Miracle Surface with 317X is. This attachment purports to be the advertisement where it is first announced: [url]http://classicalmusicreferences.com/home/classical-music-record-sets/rca-records-miracle-surface-ant...[/url] Some of the text preceding the ad copy suggests that the material was offered to the industry "license free" but I see no basis for that; to the contrary, RCA seemed to claim that it, and only RCA had this miracle substance, which was obviously used as a marketing tool. Some years ago, I pored through a vast amount of material in the AES archives, mostly papers presented by engineers and scientists, some of whom worked for the large labels. There was always a fair amount of stuff about vinyl compounding, stabilizers, thermal flow, reducing static, etc. I don’t know that this Miracle stuff would have been patentable in and of itself-- it may be in one of the RCA patents at the time (or not). I did set aside copies of many of the papers for my own use and they are stashed away in a box up in the attic. If you or someone else here is an AES member, you now get access to the archive as part of your membership fee. (It used to be an additional fee to see all the archival material). Somewhere, there’s somebody alive that knows.... Maybe. (One of the people who assigned a few patents to RCA was Sarwan Kumar Khanna, but most of his work was in the ’70s, after your Miracle stuff had been invented. I suspect it was part of the compound, but who knows...). Gotta love digging through this stuff. Maybe somebody named it after their kid. :) |
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