Anyone listen to Zu Audio's Definition Mk3?

My own experience with ASR is a clean, smooth but bleached aural presentation; good without regard to cost but tonally incomplete in any case and not retrievable if your criteria for fidelity include holistic representation of the leading, middle and decay of a note, as well as many simultaneous notes together. ASR produces an illusion of fidelity rather than the actual facsimile of it. Very good. Very expensive for what you get. Not far enough on the arc of convincing musicality. But I fully understand why some people are attracted to the clean, desiccated sound of ASR along with many other advanced but flat solid state options similar.

Phil

Cobra, the ASR's neutrality and low noise is simply highlighting the idiosyncrasies of your system/room

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3 owners of Def speakers with the ASR amp are not hearing what you did with the ASR.

I have learned to disregard your thoughts on the ASR amp as a misguided missile. What you think is real sounding and fake sounding in your system is IYO and not true of the ASR Emitter amp in general.

Cobra, the ASR's neutrality and low noise is simply highlighting the idiosyncrasies of your system/room

Or another possibility,Phil system is revealing the true character of the ASR. One perspective is as plausible as the other.For those who prefer the ASR amp why does it matter so much that some don`t hear it as you do? In phil`s system the Audion amplifier was simply better in his opinion. We have a diffence of opinions,heaven forbid.