Has anyone heard the SAT XD1


As a Swede I was a bit proud years ago that we had a very good Swedish made turntable, the Forsell Air Reference. They don't make them anymore but you can find some used ones on different sites.

Now we seem to have a new Swedish made turntable again! 
The SAT (Swedish Audio Technology) XD1 
I don't even have a table but I am happy. Too bad it is priced out of range for almost all of us. On the other hand Fremer seems to think it is one of the best tables in the world right now. Very high praises. I hope I can hear it some day at some audio show, even though I personally probably won't hear much difference from other high end turntables.

https://www.stereophile.com/content/analog-corner-304-sat-xd1-record-player

http://www.swedishat.com/

https://www.audiogon.com/listings/lisa4dae-forsell-air-reference-tangential-air-bearing-turntable-su...
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daveyf
Do explain how my experience, your experience, or anyone’s experience with the table has anything to do with the asking price of this product?
Sure.
There is no substitute for experience. It’s that simple.
Oh, I forgot, you are able to purchase this table with your pocket change, isn’t that right...and think it is a value proposition.
Similarly, snark is no substitute for reason.
I really couldn’t give a darn if Marc Gomez wants to price his stuff in the ether ...
You seem to care about this very much. Why so coy?
Cleeds ,once again audio guru, what does experience have to do with the asking price of this table??

So, here is a perspective, an opinion,

For these upper priced tables, there appears to be about a 3-4:1 ratio between the table the tonearm. With the SAT arm already at $50K, to market a matching table, the table has to cost $150K-$200K. Its part of the brand exclusivity. We see similar type brand-pricing everywhere - cars, watches, etc.

However, from my perspective as someone with an engineering background, this table is not breaking any new state of the art. The motor is a modified Technics; the base is a modified Minus-K isolation platform and as far as the plinth, magnesium alloy has been known for over 50 years to provide superior damping qualities. The SME magnesium tonearm is not by chance. But the review does indicate that a lot of machining was done in Switzerland by the same group that machines parts for Hasselblad (that has a $48K camera w/o lens). So, it is a object where no expense was been spared.

It would have been nice to know how much benefit did the modified Minus-K base provided. You can buy a Minus-K platform for abut $5K - Thin Low Height Vibration Isolation Platforms & Bench Tops | Minus K. Otherwise, the design is very compact and compared to others could be very appealing, especially those that already have a SAT arm. Is this table going to be trickle-down - no; the primary technologies - the motor, the base, the plinth are all tried and true - but not necessarily together. And, it is entirely possible that the table & arm form a ’magical’ synergy that the whole exceeds the sum of the parts and it sounds awesome. But, how does it compare to say the Basis A.J. Conti: Transcending Perfection — Basis Audio - that Fremer has never reviewed - TAS RH got the scoop on that table.

Yes, the cost of the extreme upper echelon of audio has reached staggering heights - along with the incomes of the very rich; and of course where this is desire - someone is going to fulfil it. However, there are so many other lower cost awesome products that it would be a shame for some to view this hobby-pursuit with contempt, because they will miss-out on the journey if they choose and the enjoyment of so much awesome music when played back through a nice system.

Just some thoughts


 @antinn  Thanks for that. I think the Basis Transcendence is awfully hard to beat, and it is a fraction of the price of the new SAT...even with the Superarm 9 or 12 mounted! 
It is also awful ugly (the Basis). The SAT is plain Jane. Now the Air Force Zero, that is a piece of work. $450K

You can do anything if you throw enough money at it. The trick and the point of this hobby is to get as close as you can without spending a fortune. 

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