Classical Music for Aficionados

The real Haydn when he wrote what HE wanted !
Very top of Classical music .
https://youtu.be/69r1k8oUaGs

Haydn is the equal of  Mozart and he him.
Most all on here would choose Mozart, I lean a bit toward  Haydn because the String Quartet  is my wheelhouse.
We are both  correct .

Haydn worked more about his inspiration than only with it... He is a craftsman... All he wrote is perfect workmanship.... His quatuor exceed Mozart one in perfection...

But Mozart rival his master with his quintets...And his symphonies....

And for voices composition, no one on earth ever equal Mozart at all...No one has ever create melodic voices so much ethereal, almost angels voices.... Cosi fan tutte is so ethereal, than reading the libretto is ridiculous....Cosi is like the art of the fugue for voices, but not like the Art a work coming from a supremum mathematical combinatoric, but more a pure gushing from the heart elevated to the spirit.... There exist no formula for that....No mathematics either....

Mozart dont work in a steady pace like Bach and Haydn did, it is more like Vivaldi, an uncontrollable melodic output with no rear thinking, but on a more deep inspiration than Vivaldi....Their creations gives something that does not comes from works.... But there is exception, moment when they work hard, for example Vivaldi gives to us when he was very young, his sonatas for violin opus 2...( one of my favorite Vivaldi works with the seasons) Listen and you will hear the working refining the inspiration.... His immense concertos output was created, except for example the 4 seasons, with melodic inspiration but almost no works except formulas...

It was for him like Vivaldi, too easy for them to do really hard work....Telemann was like that....We feel this easy inspiration also in Mendelssohn....But none of them reach the deep touching of Mozert.... Except at some moment of exception: for example the Kyrie of Vivaldi on par with Mozart...

By the way Karl Ristenpart is a great maestro.....

Mozart grew and matured, his last four symphonies are evident of this. Mozart’s operas and piano concertos separate him from his peers.

As did Haydn did with his superb religious works that challenge the Bach
Passions and beat them all with his superb St Qts .
Mozart’s piano concertos are the best and his opera’s are excellent .


There is a little guy named Puccini who did better in song and strikes even deeper to the human heart but I don’t think he wrote any symphony’s.
https://youtu.be/1woH96ROG-c?t=5


I’,ve seen half the men and all the women in tears at Madam Butterfly , Never seen anybody crying at a Mozart opera .
Unless you are God there is no such thing as" elevation" of the heart this side of heaven and we all know that Bach is the Zenith .
You have the right to tell us about you emotional state , I do it all the time .But it is just  ours . And only God knows what is what about human spirit etc

The finer expression of all the range of emotions (Puccini) is not the same that the pure elevation of heart to the spirit with voice that sings but speaks no more (Mozart Cosi)...

But i will give you that the seven last words on the cross of Haydn is on par with any Bach.... Only that is a testimony for this giant.....

But i must confess that no one beat Bach for me..... 😊

All composers act or react with or against Bach with all the degree of freedom between the 2 positions.....

My favorite opponent to Bach is Scriabin ( 2 minutes of Scriabin may transcend anything else sometimes)......My favorite disciple of Bach is Bruckner....The 5 th symphony is the art of symphony.... The final fugue is the most beautiful and deep works ever written after Bach.... All other symphonies of other composers seems like gentle toys.... 😉 Beautiful poems sometimes compared to Bruckner like the 6th or 7th of Beethoven the greatest composer in symphony after Bruckner(before him by date of birth), or for example Mahler....

But the 5th of Bruckner and over are so great that they crush the business of symphony making after them....After him the symphonies of all other composers are more like some cinema, they can be masterful, but yet always less spiritual and more mundane and yet sure may be very moving.... But emotions only are not spirit....