I admire Miles Davis, i admire Stravinsky; but i loved Chet Baker and Scriabin...You?


What we listen to we cannot trace always a border between cold or cool admiration and heart wrenching love at first sight....

I admire Bach without limit but i love also him dearly....Here admiration and love are one....

The first time li listen to Chet Baker i was not even sure if it was a great trumpetist, but i love him without knowing why....

More i listen to Miles Davis more i admire him but i still wait for love to come....I like it a lot but it is not love and i know the first time i listen to him why he is a great trumpetist, unlike Chet, his mastering of the instrument was evident.... For Chet i listen not the trumpet but the voice of his instrument, i even forgot he was playing the trumpet and the question if he was great was secondary....Miles was great without any doubts.... But i am in love with Chet because he touch my heart.....



Sometimes the frontier between these 2 are less clear, i admire Brahms but i like him more than i love him.... Bruckner i admire him like a new Bach and i love him like our old grandpa with a feeling that will never end....

I admire Monteverdi at the level of my admiration for Bach, but i like him only , it is not this passionnate love that changes my heart and life like with those i love...

I love Bill Evans dearly but i admire Keith Jarrett greatly but without any passion....

I admire and love Vivaldi at the same times.....

I admire Telemann, Haendel, Haydn more than i love them..... I am in love with Purcell tough and Josquin Desprez.....

I admire Hildegard the Bingen and i love her without words.... I am in love with the organ composer Pachelbel but i only admire Palestrina....

I admire Arvo Part very much, but am i in love? No....Excep perhaps for one or 2 of his work: Alina for example....I admire and love Gorecki symphony of tears but not much the rest....Only respect for the rest of his works....

I admire Arrau, Horowitz, many pianists but am i in love? No, but i am in total love with Ervin Nyiregyházi , Ivan Moravec, or Sofronitsky....

I admire the composer Sorabji almost like Bach but dont feel any love at all....Deep fascination and admiration for a genius  that never speak from the heart to the heart, only from his brain to my brain.... But what a genius ! 

I admire many, many, female singers, but i am in love with only a few, i love Billie Holiday, Marianne Anderson for example....

I will not go on with my list any longer...

But what speak to our heart and what speak to our brain is not the same and sometimes some music speak for us to the 2 part of ourselves...

But one thing must me clear, i dont want to live without the great musicians whom i only admire. I like them like interesting friends, even if i am not changed by love at first sight with them, swimming in the sea of adoration....


What are those you admire but only like ? What are those you clearly are in love with?

When the brain speak first and always, it is admiration and friendship not love.... In love there is a mystery in with we participate and which transform our life....

Those who we admire gives us pleasure.... Those who we love gives us not only that but an ultimate meaning that go to your heart.....


Listening music is learning to listen into the many levels in us where music can reach and transform us.... Each music or musician has this potential to change us at a level or at another one, or at all levels simultaneously....But for sure it is different for each of us......

I apologize if my OP makes no sense for some.... I hope my question will make sense for some....

Thanks......

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Think I will just get to the point .

I believe this the Greatest piece of Music ever written.The first is what you would have heard in a small North German Church in Bach’s Time . I prefer this version.

https://youtu.be/__lCZeePG48?t=1

Full version take your choice .
https://youtu.be/6j8BJ21yLoA?t=3


I VERY seldom use the word genius , Karl Richter was a genius !
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Thanks for this interesting posts.... Elly Ameling was my first love in Bach voices... 😊

Richter is certainly a genius....

Who could not or would not love "la petite bande" do not love Bach enough....
I am in LOVE with that one who pray with his beating heart...

I LIKE very much the magnificent perfect rendition of that one who sing so well...

Guess which one i love, and which one i like very much....



A clue: the one who sing well can be replaced by many other voices on par with her... The one i love cannot be replaced by almost ANY other voice i think of , she is out of the scale...




Anne Sofie Von Otter
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r2C8TvF3dJk

Marian Anderson
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=14MwxfiPHVY
In fairness to Von Otter, I would venture to say that part of your reaction is to the “context”.  A performance by a soloist does not occur in a vacuum and is greatly influenced by the “supporting cast”.  Imo, in the Von Otter, the conductor’s tempo is entirely too fast and feels rushed; and the “setup” by the solo violin (and the ensemble in general) is not played with the sensitivity and reverence that this glorious music deserves.  In the Anderson, Robert Shaw’s tempo is more appropriately relaxed and the gorgeous and beautifully restrained solo violin is by the great Joseph Fuchs.  Even those who “sing so well” need good context.

Sometimes it is possible to have both:

https://youtu.be/x2XUaCWezRY

On the other hand, perhaps I am mistaken about which you love? 🤔