TUBE BIAS, socket to me!


BIAS: (I'm starting from zero understanding) 

I have never measured/adjusted bias in the 3 tube amps, 3 tube receivers, and 2 tube preamps I have acquired over 47 years. I just switched my current Cayin from 6550's to KT88's. Adjust bias? Adjusters inside, scary electrocution warnings. I could pay someone else to do it, i.e. Steve at VAS 1 hr away in NJ, soooo, 

What really counts? (personally I don't care about either heat or life, but would like to understand)

Heat?
Life?
Output stays Matched when adjusted?
Acoustic Performance?
_________?

Over the years, fronts off, bottoms off, I hose em down with contact cleaner/lubricant, compressed air, all controls and switchers, any adjusters, swish full spin back and forth. Kill any spiders, look for, replace the rare burnt resistor. 
Then leave any adjusters (whatever they are) in the middle position, button it back up.

Two tube testers, my big hickock always agrees with small portable one, test strength, shorts, matched strength old and newly purchased. Large collection of NOS, used. Often used test essentially same strength as new ones.

When they go, it's usually a short.
elliottbnewcombjr
Vintage, classic, antique or old, heavily used, low tech, rebuilt? The words you show your bias.

New, high tech, modern or unproven, bleeding edge, trendy? Same thing.

I can’t stand the Marketing BS.

vegasears

Auto biasing amps, worth every penny!
I wish my Cayin had it, alas, adjusters within.

I got hooked on the reviews of the Cayin, they have auto-bias on mark 2,3 but my speakers are 16 ohm, only mark 1 has 16 ohm and it’s bias controls are inside.

Seller had it biased just prior to sale to me, however that was for it’s 6550’s. I tried KT88’s for the first time, much prefer them, and .... of course I should bias them. I’m a DIY, but the words ’lethal’ ’death’ ... gave me lockstep.

Made myself a nice long screwdriver out of a hardwood chopstick, dusted off 30 year old multimeter: new batteries, clean moving parts, pots, contacts, then realized, I never used this multimeter, I don’t understand this stuff. I even found it’s 30 year old manual in my ’instructions’ folder in the basement.

I feel I’m all dressed up, nowhere to go.






jss491,799 posts12-27-2020 12:08pmhttps://forums.stevehoffman.tv/threads/tube-integrated-with-autobias-equivalent-to-cayin-a88t.784890...

if you haven't seen this elliott - some interesting background and discussions
Thanks, I am going back thru the discussion, reminding myself of the many suggestions, and took the time to go thru that, it is interesting.

oldhvymec1,917 posts
12-28-2020 6:36pm
https://www.pinoydvd.com/index.php?topic=139769.0

OP check this thread out pretty good, pics in all...

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thanks, finally had a look today.

Preamp Connected???


"amp should be connected to your preamp but volume is turned fully down ( NO signal applied to the amp )."  


 jomar

Re: Cayin A88t - Biasing

I owned previously a A88T amp below are the biasing procedures. Please take note that the amp has HIGH voltages thus extra care should be taken.

1. Open bottom cover to have an access on the Test Point ( TP ) and Variable Trim pots (VR) .
2. Speakers should be connected and amp should be connected to your preamp but volume is turned fully down ( NO signal applied to the amp ).
3. Turn-ON power amp for about 10 minutes to warm-up tubes.
4. Attached positive ( Red ) probe of DVM (Digital Volt Meter) to Test Point . Negative probe of DVM to GROUND.
4. Adjust the VR which corresponds to the tube being biased to get 0.4Volts (400mV) reading
    *** VR1 for V5 , VR2 for V6, VR3 for V7 and VR4 for V8
5. Verify reading after 30 mins to finetune .
6. Power OFF amp and put back bottom cover

lewm

now I see what you were referring to re 'surprised'. but this was a quote found and pasted by another poster, not me.  

"Like me, after living with the MX110Z for a while, you may wonder why all modern preamplifiers don’t include FM tuners and equalization controls—they’re great fun! Also, tell me, is there anything even remotely comparable to the vacuum tubed McIntosh MX110Z currently available today at any price? No, which is a pity."

Price: I don't know when that was written, I got lucky, the mx110z has increased in price over the last year.

A tube tuner/preamp with tuner and phono only would be cool, no need for so many inputs as the integrated amps have them. Gotta have remote volume and remote balance on the integrated so that's available to all sources.