nonoise6,669 posts01-14-2021 8:42pmI have no reason to contact Marantz. You do.
All the best, Nonoise An honorable person would admit they were wrong and barking up the wrong tree. It should have been obvious the measurements could not be the same. Marantz clearly in the manual states they are not the same. But as opposed to recognizing this, you try to make it look like you are the one in the right. |
I'm not barking up any tree. I just wanted clarification and even now, you're not sure and continue to swing for the fences, considering it settled. Then, you get on your hobby horse with personal attacks. Your feeble sophist attempts to save face are kind of amusing.
You could very well be right, or kind of right, or just half right and not directly addressing what the reviewer stated. Keep swinging, Casey.
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Not much to say other than to quote your own posts. Djones showed quite clearly that yes, changing these setting absolutely will change the measurements. It is right there in the user manual. As opposed to acknowledging that, you are condescending to him. I have no face to save. I stated that there was no way it would measure the same. Djones did the leg work and proved that true. There is nothing to address that the review said. He said the measurements don’t change. They absolutely do. No one doubts that the changes would be audible (and measurable), except perhaps you. nonoise6,670 posts01-14-2021 2:14pmOn a review of the Marantz SA-10CD/SACD player, I came across this: http://www.10audio.com/marantz_sa-10.htmI
The user can adjust settings for dither to minimize quantization errors, and also choose one of four settings for the Noise Shaper, which changes “linearity and noise characteristics in the audible range using digital feedback. The measurements are the same but the sound quality changes.” Changing the dither and Noise Shaper settings have an audible effect, but were left at the default settings for this evaluation. The part where it states: The measurements are the same but the sound quality changes. caught my attention. Is that true? And, if so, how is it explained that something can sound different yet measure the same?
nonoise6,670 posts01-14-2021 8:03pmBoth of you should contact Marantz and maybe the reviewer, discuss it with them, dazzle them with your brilliance, and get back to us on how you told them and set the record straight.
All the best, Nonoise
nonoise6,670 posts01-14-2021 8:42pmI have no reason to contact Marantz. You do.
All the best, Nonoise
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@lalitk ,I will be very eager to know your experience with the ENO Network filter. And I think there is no point in discussing with folks who consider bits are bits and refuse to have an open mind.
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I assumed Marantz means the bit rate/ Hertz [24/192 ] stays the same when they use the term measurements. If not then I have no idea what they are talking about since they say in their literature the SNR improves using certain settings and the last one up to 5khz. Like i already said, you're not sure. All the best, Nonoise |