Better Integrated Amp?


Hi, I'm looking at my first set up and have been advised by people on this website to get an integrated amp (including phono stage). I'm looking at the Quad Vena 2 which I would have to get second hand due to cost, and the Denon PMA-800NE which I could buy new whilst still being the cheaper option. I'm open to other suggestions to just wanted to get your thoughts on which amp I should go for or if I should look at some others too.
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I would focus on auditioning speakers 1st, and consider the amps that are paired with them during audition. 

What budget are you considering for speakers? 
I thought i would try and figure out what amp to get before figuring out what speaker to pair it with. 
Why would you think that?  I’d highly recommend you figure out speakers first.  Case in point — the Quad only puts out 45Wpc, which will limit your speaker choices quite a bit.  Just my 2 pence FWIW, and best of luck. 

Mikem: I agree with the importance volume control is. Names withheld, but I've had amps where the volume on the remote won't move when you hit the +, then goes up fast. Another problem is to see the volume knob if it only has a small white dot on it. 
Recently bought a Hegel H390. The display numbers of the level are clear without glasses at 8' back, and I need them over 6'. 
I second Yamaha 501, or higher model if you can. I have been very familiar with it. It is an excellent amplifier. I cannot say how it compares to others listed, but it is a good machine.  A pair of Monitor Audio speakers to match and you are good to go.