A stupid question for which there's no sensible answer.


I know, I know. At least I've labeled it properly.

Here goes: of the following elements of a system, how would you rank their influence on the sound? In other words, generally, which would someone want to upgrade or prioritize, and in what order,  if all of the following pieces were inferior to an amp/preamp and speakers they were happy with? Power cables, connector cables. speaker cables. streaming source, music source, dac (I vote for this one as #1), room treatment, speaker placement, type of chair, earwax quotient, what you ate for lunch, etc.

I hereby give my permission for everyone to tell me this is an idiotic question since the real answer is: it depends. (But I did put a "generally" in there somewhere). Anyway, I prefer that we debate this based on what we've experienced when we've tinkered. So I guess I'm really interested in anecdotes.

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I’m more Buddhist than anything else. very much in the same camp on the subject of ’reality’.

Probably why my attempts at being egotistically oriented enough for audio sales, just don’t seem to work. The idea of being slick enough to slip past people’s innate defenses and unrealized tracks of internal incursion and grab their cash, is not something I can do ethically and morally.

I sell through truth as I can best understand it, the only door available, in my thinking. Which people tend to write off as overamped ego, as that is what some amount/percentage of the audio world tends to give them.

Part of why Teo is not a big company in the world of audio. We won’t screw people over at any step and thus can’t use most of the advantages that some others have.

The best salesmen are very careful about how they integrate with the given ego package in front of them at the given sale moment. I sell with the truth as I know it (so I never have to remember and recall patterns in lies) which can take the buyer out of the positive safe correct feeling ’purchase mode’.... and back to questioning the world, where the Buddhist in me desires to naturally help them exist as. And I lose the sale.

If you look at my posts, any one in over 20 years, every single one of them smells like that, to one degree or another, almost entirely without exception. Which grates people and creates the crackpot analogies. Too bad, but I did mange to punch them in the thinker, their retorts state it explicitly. Terrible for sales, though. But I get to keep my compass.

Listening to: I knew happiness once (that complex heady mixture of simultaneous enlightenment/joy.. and loss) 


Teo, I'm reading Taking the Leap by Pema Chodrin. Great stuff.
I'm a terrible salesman. I can't even get myself to promote myself in my careers. Being helpful on a deeper level precludes self-interest.
«Selling the absolute dont help the relatives but it can create a relation» -Groucho Marx
Getting setup of whatever you have right overall based on room acoustics is always the first order.  Only then can you properly  decide what upgrades to attempt or if even needed.
Getting setup of whatever you have right overall based on room acoustics is always the first order. Only then can you properly decide what upgrades to attempt or if even needed.
This is my point also but most people forget the 2 others embeddings controls of an audio system:

Vibrations and resonance controls,
Electrical grid of the  house and room controls,

These 2 together act differently on the sound quality perception  but together their negative impact is almost equal to the negative impact of the bad or lack of acoustical settings in a room...

This is why i called all that embeddings controls not only acoustical controls...

But yes acoustic is the most evident and powerful .....But the other 2 almost rival it in destructive power...

I know that by personal experience and experiments...