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Martin logan CLS II Vs Magnepan 1.7

Hello
I currently Own the Logan and love the Midrange and high frequencies the presence and imaging is amazing however as im listening to more rock and roll I miss some of the dynamics or kick that the CLS cant reproduce.
I have heard great things about the Maggies and I am wondering if they will do a better job for me.
So I am asking for your opinion before I attempt to swap these, my next question is just how much are the Logans going for lately I would need to sell them locally since I dont have the boxes?
as always any advice is greatly appreciated
Thanks
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theaudiotweak
2,797 posts
 
With a test tone selected, played at the same frequency as the chosen crossover point of the subs, and while using a calibrated mic and RTA display you can easily set the phase of two subs to gain the best in room response. Adjusting the phase adjusts for the null of the response curves of the sub and the mains. To achieve the most accurate response one needs a variable phase control not just a two way or three way phase switch. Tom
dinkylink OP
9 posts
 
Thank you I do have a Rel subwoofer in the mix but I feel I'm still missing mid bass punch...
macdadtexas
1,794 posts
 
there's a reason they don't make the CLS anymore, and Maggies continue to make newer versions of the QR, now R, models.

The Maggies are a much better speaker.
rrog
1,958 posts
 
Johnk, Then you didn't hear them properly set up. They need a lot of power. Wyred4Sound ST-1000 gives the 1.7's dynamics and bass that will make you think there is a subwoofer. 4 CLS 2Z's and 4 Descent subwoofers? I'm sure Gayle Sanders would be impressed.
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johnk
1,975 posts
 
Owner was running MF Kilowatt amps on 1.7S its a fine loudspeaker but its dynamic capabilities due to panel area are not greater than CLS2. And this is what the poster is referring to. Toss in Dipole effect and OB size. Bass- Midbass is going to suffer its just part of the design compromise this size panel with this amount of surface area this amount of power handling and excursion, toss in OB with Dipole design and that's just the way it is mate, read up on Open baffle, dipole effect, loudspeaker design and you will agree. This doesn't mean 1.7 isn't a good loudspeaker or that the bass isn't usable its just not perfect as are all things. OBs in general can not pressurize its just the nature of the OB dipole design. Bass frequency or midbass are limited by size of baffle. The rear wave will cancel the front the distance the wave travels is the frequency cut off. All OB suffer from this doesnt mean they are not good loudspeaker. The ML multi CLS system is owned by member Yada he also runs dual ML center C. And one of our giant KCS bass systems with 31.5 in woofer. His homes giant.
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