Please Educate Me


If I can’t find the answer here, I won’t find it anywhere. 

Something I’ve wondered about for a long time: The whole world is digital. Some huge percentage of our lives consists of ones and zeros. 

And with the exception of hi-fi, I don’t know of a single instance in which all of this digitalia isn’t yes/no, black/white, it works or it doesn’t. No one says, “Man, Microsoft Word works great on this machine,” or “The reds in that copy of Grand Theft Auto are a tad bright.” The very nature of digital information precludes such questions. 

Not so when it comes to hi-fi. I’m extremely skeptical about much that goes on in high end audio but I’ve obviously heard the difference among digital sources. Just because something is on CD or 92/156 FLAC doesn’t mean that it’s going to sound the same on different players or streamers. 

Conceptually, logically, I don’t know why it doesn’t. I know about audiophile-type concerns like timing and flutter. But those don’t get to the underlying science of my question. 

I feel like I’m asking about ABCs but I was held back in kindergarten and the computerized world isn’t doing me any favors. Now, if you’ll excuse me, I have some work to do. I’ll be using Photoshop and I’ve got it dialed in just right. 
paul6001
Good old Millercarbon and it is amusing that he chimes in first here to educate. Self annointed self appointed curator of the only accurate opinions and audio knowledge. Just ask him and he will tell you so in detail.
  I am coming to the conclusion he is a retired bored guy who just likes to stir crap up and spend his days pontificating and harassing. Goes well with all the absurd audio topics and claims made here though so there is that.
Paul6001, You said in part " Not so when it comes to hi-fi. I’m extremely skeptical about much that goes on in high end audio but I’ve obviously heard the difference among digital sources. Just because something is on CD or 92/156 FLAC doesn’t mean that it’s going to sound the same on different players or streamers. "
Above and beyond digital source variances you also have room variances which effect what you hear. Then add variances between drivers and time aligning and balancing gain and then add drivers have problems with certain frequencies to be EQued. Then add your own hearing. My left ear hears better than my right. Then add crossover limitations which many suffer from because they want plug and play.

When I started to build my current system I knew all these things had to be addressed as they were all part of the aggregate. The only answer I know to adjust all these variables is to get a UMike and Room Equalizer Wizard ( free audio output analyzing software) and use something like a Xilica XP4080 to control all the potential variables. You have to learn to measure what you are doing and then be able to control what you output if your goal is the best possible sound with your existing, or indeed any setup.

My system is very simple. Feed my source files from a PC to the Xilica and then Bi-amped output to my two way all horn rig and there is no need for all these bits and pieces so many assemble to try and fix their problems. Do it right the first time and keep it simple. Doing things this way also means you change rooms and you can adjust for the new room. Change speakers or amps same thing. You like warm tube amp sound or any other preference you can adjust to do this. It is not fun to learn but once you do you are good to go for any variable you might introduce in equipment or environment.

By the way consider this. I can set the UMike up in my listening spot positioned next to my head and connect it to my PC. Keyboard and monitor right in front of me and I can sit there and adjust on the fly in real time and save those settings for future use. Up to 30 presets so you can even dial in your preferences for specific genres of music and sit down for an evening of Cello or Rock or Blues/Jazz or whatever. Selecting a preset takes all of 20 seconds. Any other way leaves a lot to be desired in my experience. My goal is to be right there sitting with the musicians or next to the 30’ pipes and this is the only way I have found to do so.
We can correct anything in a room, even the worst position...But for sure the speakers location distance MUST be precise... Othen than that, even with one of my speaker pressed in a corner for example my imaging is balanced.....


This is the good news and i know it by my listenings experiments, 2 years in my acoustic....



The bad news is that it will not be esthetic and cheap at the same time...

And each room is a case by case problem with only listening experiments to correct the course...Standard acoustic treatment solve all problem if you recreate the room for audio, but it is not cheap...I had useed many unorthodox controls and treatment at no cost almost with success..

The only thing i will try at last will be adjusting speakers and room with a mic and a program...This summer...

But my results are already astounding.... Not esthetic at all tough....I even cannot do justice to the foolishness of my room with only one photo.... But the S.Q. is the best i ever listen to ....I laugh the last then.... 😊


Thake my good news for a glimmer of hope....

My best to you freom the soul...
millercarbon.  Get a life.  There are no reasons whatsoever for your comment, other than to be a prick. You offer no advice, and make accusations that are totally unfounded.  Go back to watching stoner cartoons.
To the OP,

Why do you allow your bell to be rung?
As a fellow New Yorker (albeit now a suburbanite,) I would think you’d be able to shrug this kind of dreck off.
Your question is a perfectly logical one to me.
Im surprised you keep coming back for more abuse.