When is digital going to get the soul of music?


I have to ask this(actually, I thought I mentioned this in another thread.). It's been at least 25 years of digital. The equivalent in vinyl is 1975. I am currently listening to a pre-1975 album. It conveys the soul of music. Although digital may be more detailed, and even gives more detail than analog does(in a way), when will it convey the soul of music. This has escaped digital, as far as I can tell.
mmakshak
Hi Fas42 - I want to respond to a couple of points you make: "distortion is distortion is distortion," and "A key indicator of digital working well is that there is no such thing as a bad recording, you can enjoy the "soul" of everything you have."

Am I correct in guessing that you listen to primarily, perhaps almost exclusively, electronically produced music? This would be the only context in which I personally can conceive of anyone making the two above statements. Certainly digital can come close to analog in that arena. But if we are talking about recording the human voice, or other acoustic instruments, such as a full symphony orchestra, then sadly, there are indeed very very bad digital recordings; in fact, the vast majority. To give just one, but to me the most damning example, digital processing simply removes too much timbral information, something that designers have always acknowledged and have never been able to fix, despite the great advances digital has indeed made. This is what most people mean when they talk about missing the "soul" in digital recordings.

And I would vehemently disagree with the first of those quotes as well. It has always baffled me when some audiophiles make this statement. Analog recording has much more distortion in it than digital, you are certainly correct there. However, the distortions inherent in the digital recording medium take place at higher, and therefore MUCH more musically objectionable frequencies. I am no electrical engineer, and others have explained the reasons behind this much better than I; I am sure this thread has multiple examples. I am, however, a professional orchestral musician, and I can tell you that I have never heard a digital recording of an orchestra, as good as many of them are, that sounds remotely as close to real as even an average analog recording. Besides the timbral issues I mentioned earlier, there is also the relative lack of ambient information from the original recording space - almost all digital recordings are multi-miked and then remixed so that any sense of the music happening in a real space, so important for most classical music, is gone. Even worse, the worst digital recording engineers will add to the mix a very fake sounding reverb in order to try to get that concert hall sound back again. Yes, analog has more surface noise - but this type of distortion is not embedded in the music itself, and can be listened through. Many of the ways digital processing distorts musical realities cannot be listened through, as they are embedded in the recording itself. Digital has indeed come a very long way, but in mine and many other musician's opinions, a few of it's flaws can never quite be overcome.

Please understand that I am in no way implying that digital is unlistenable or anything of the sort. There are many great performances that were only recorded digitally, and I am certainly not going to pass them up just because they were digitally recorded. I merely maintain that analog is a superior recording medium, if musical realism is the goal.
Learsfool,

IMHO people object to digital playback and not the recording itself. Most of the LP material comes from digital masters but very few object to that. Perhaps the real problem is in the playback where in redbook CD (16/44.1) higher frequencies are represented by just few samples while resolution is only 1 part in 65k. Making 10 kHz sinewave in 4 points is very difficult while 20kHz in 2 points is practically impossible. AFAIK Nyquist requirement guarantees only preservation of the frequency (no aliasing) and not the amplitude. SACD is roughly equivalent to 20/96 and is already much better sounding than redbook CD. I've never heard 24/192 masters but few people who did said that sound is incredible.
Kijanki,

I think your analysis is spot on!

THis evidences itself as lesser detail and resolution at higher frequencies. This will offend some more than others. Those with younger highly trained ears are likely more susceptible in general since ability to hear high frequencies is typically far superior when young and declines with age.
While it really depends on the recording, I think the remaining issue in digital is occasional glare in vocals and maybe a woodwind or upper-midrange piano note sometimes.
But this is much less prevalent nowadays.
Learsfool,
It`s fine that you1re a professional musician I don`t think it gives you any more or less authority on the topic. I have several good friends who play music for a living and when listening to music together in various home systems with a digital source have expressed complete joy and emotional connection with the performances. These people have had exposure to good analog and enjoy that as well. These sources were the Well tempered table and a Linn LP12. I certainly agree with fast42 and niacin, a properly setup using high quaility digital sources can sound absolutely soulful,passionate,vital etc. We have at times listen to the same titles in both formats to compare, one is`nt consistently superior to the other.