When is digital going to get the soul of music?


I have to ask this(actually, I thought I mentioned this in another thread.). It's been at least 25 years of digital. The equivalent in vinyl is 1975. I am currently listening to a pre-1975 album. It conveys the soul of music. Although digital may be more detailed, and even gives more detail than analog does(in a way), when will it convey the soul of music. This has escaped digital, as far as I can tell.
mmakshak
Learsfool, I would just take issue with a couple of your points, if I may ...

"objection is ... the process of digital recording and processing, and what it does to the sound in the first place, long before anyone's playback": as the only way to know what 'has been done' is by monitoring via a playback of some form, how you can know when the sound has gone "astray". How you do know that the recording hasn't been "perfect", and that it isn't the playback at the recording location that is at fault. And before you say, of course the recording engineers are using high performance, professional equipment, remember my comment about a car capable of 100mph -- it's straightforward to make a car capable of staggering speeds, whether you to want to take a ride in it is another matter!

"what is not present in a digital recording that is in an analog one" and "removes too much information": this type of comment is still made over and over again, and waves a big flag to me that says: digital distortion in the PLAYBACK!

Vinyl has a distinctive, characteristic distortion of pops, crackles and whoosh, tape has one of high frequency hiss, and digital has one of sounding like information has been lost! Granted the latter type of distortion IS disturbing, of course it shouldn't be there, but getting rid of it is NOT solved easily. If it were, none of this type of discussion would take place. But it can be solved, many people have largely done it, there are comments by those who have transcribed good vinyl recordings to digital and then find it almost impossible to pick whether it is the LP or the digital copy playing. What the person has done, of course, is exactly equivalent to having a very high quality accoustic horn gramophone set up in the recording studio with a microphone stuck in front! And it worked ...

Frank
Learsfool, My friend who works for very large recording studio said that they got rid of very expensive analog tape recorders more than 10 years ago and everything since is done digital. Your ears, being in orchestra, plus experience with live instrument sounds, is better than mine (I'm sure), but how many people can tell just by listening if LP was recorded from analog or digital tape? I cannot do that, but even if I could detect small sound difference I would still prefer version without hiss of analog tape.

Such hiss can be suppressed in CD playback by de-emphasis but as far as I know cannot be removed from LP playback. On the other hand - de-emphasis feature of CD players is almost never used since everything is recorded digital (no tape noise) these days.
Sorry, silly typo's earlier ... obviously I meant " ... how can you can know when the sound has gone "astray"? How do you know ..."

Frank
Learsfool, My friend who works for very large recording studio said that they got rid of very expensive analog tape recorders more than 10 years ago and everything since is done digital.

And many sites such as Apple have no intention of offering LP or master tape dubs because they make millions selling MP3.

Lets not confuse commercial interests with quality.

I have friends in the recording business and all of them say analog is still the best. There are high resolution files that pretty much equal analog but we mortals here at Audiogon have NO access to them.

Audiogon is about audiophiles and love of music. I understand the desire to make CD the best it can be, there are thousands of titles on CD that may never be on any other format. BUT as for best reproduction regardless of format, analog is still the best available to us as consumers, even if the master was digital.

I've explained that in other posts but can repeat here if you wish.
For me it is only issue of playback, since I cannot tell analog from digital master (other than hiss of tape). I believe it is better to allocate all resources into digital than building two systems (since LP selection is so limited).

Again, LP playback might be perfect but it doesn't "sound" good to my ears:

- clicks and pops
- wear of the media
- very limited selection
- inability to listen to whole record at once
- difficulty in changing tracks
- no playlists
- no way to make backup
- no server
- no wireless
- no remote
- constant cleaning
- maintenance of the hardware
- cost of supplies (including stylus)
- wow and flutter
- rumble
- feedback