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DEBRA / SWARM DSP?

I’ve been trying to learn about room treatment and Room EQ Wizard (REW). In my research so far, It seems DSP is not a great idea for the main speakers in 2ch system, but it might be a good idea to use DSP for subs. In my DEBRA sub-array, it’s a little different in that I have 2qty SA1000 Dayton amps instead of the standard 1qty SA1000amp for all 4 speakers. I have 1 amp for the left front/rear subs and the other amp for the right front/rear subs. Will this work with the mini DSP? The mini DSP has 2 inputs and 4 outputs. I don’t see how to run the software/ correction/alignment with 2 subs being run off of 1 amp per side. 

BTW, I'm running the speaker level out from my tube amp through 1k and 10k transistors and terminated into 1 rca per side which go into the 2  SA1000 amps...1 input per side 

Any knowledge you may be able to impart would be greatly appreciated.
veerossi
veerossi OP
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Cal, did you find the miniDSP 2x4HD to be useful for making delay adjustments or did you just use for EQ? How do your amp and subs wired?
A. 1 amp for 2 front subs, 1 amp for 2 rear subs?
B. 1 amp for LEFT (front/rear subs), 1 amp for RIGHT (front/rear subs)?
C. Or some other way?

I am wired B
audiorusty
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If you have direct access to your pre-amps outputs, you would ideally connect your pre-amp outputs to the minidsp inputs. You would then connect two of the minidsp outputs to your main amp and the other two outputs to the Dayton amps using a “Y” cable. Assuming you need to use both left and right inputs on the Dayton amps.

Another option would be to use a DBX PA2 instead of the minidsp and connect your pre-amp outputs to the DBX inputs, then connect two of the DBX outputs to your main amp, two of the outputs to the left Dayton and the last two outputs to the right Dayton.

A third option would be to connect the pre-amp outputs with “Y” cables to the Daytons inputs and then connects the the Daytons high pass outputs back to your main amp’s inputs. 

All of these connections assume you have pre outputs and inputs of some type.


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cal3713
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I have two sets of outputs on my pre-amp. One goes to my main amps, the other to the minidsp. One minidsp output then goes to a dayton with two 8-ohm subs connected in series (front and left). The other does the same, but runs the right and rear subs. 

Inside minidsp 2x4 hd you have the options to combine the stereo inputs into a mono signal, control the crossover cutoff and slope, input up to eight (if I remember correctly) eq adjustments, control volume level (up to +2db), and adjust delay. All of that can be modified independently for each input and output channel. It's a truly amazing piece of equipment.
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cal3713
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My only complaint is that the minidsp (and the Dayton amps) have a low input impedance (8 kohms I think) and can be difficult for some preamps to drive.  If you've got a tube preamp with output capacitors, you'll want to be careful they're big enough not to start rolling off the output to the subwoofer system.

Note that using a y-cable will present the same issue. Consider checking with your pre manufacturer to ensure your unit can drive both the sub system and your main amplifiers.

My Don Sachs pre could, but my new dht pre (one single tube of voltage gain) just doesn't have enough current to push both. 
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