Raven vs primaluna integrated amplifiers

Correct me if I'm wrong but primaluna is designed in the Netherlands and made in China. 
I think the problems of junk quality are related to things designed in China. The PL are made to the Netherlands design spec. 
The company is surely incorporated in the Netherlands also?
They are keeping the $/quality ratio as low as possible by using cheaper labour that's all. Not cheaper design or materials. If it was made in America it would be the same just more expensive.
I have one and it's amazing! 

Having said that, I usually try very hard to buy local. PL value is hard to beat.

I also posted my impressions on SQ. looks like some folks are fixated on MC. 
+1 Ozzy

Not cheaper design or materials. If it was made in America it would

be the same just more expensive.

 Not true but you are free to think that. Look at US companies like Raven, Rogue, Cary, Decware, Quick Silver, LTA, Manley that make FANTASTIC gear and compete price wise and exceed in quality of their Chinese peers.

Silly logic

Like I said, Raven is hot on the Forum now...wait a while. For less than $3k, you’re better off going used. The m3k is quite good for the $, but far from breathtaking. As for PL, they get a quite a bit better as you go up the line. But looking for significant sq differences in the two integrateds you mentioned is really splitting hairs. 

As for why Texas is related to better sound quality, this is a head scratcher. Maybe if we were discussing live stock. 

As for why Texas is related to better sound quality, this is a head

scratcher. Maybe if we were discussing live stock.

Everything is bigger in Texas. And we are proud of our republic here in Texas. Unlike you and your ilk.

Also rarely do you ever see a Raven listed here on Agon, US Audio-mart or EBay. But tones of PL gear in the used market.

people buy Raven Audio and keep it.

Have to wonder if you ever even auditioned a Raven?
Sure @glow_worm sure.