The Absolute Sound vs Pleasing Sound

Thanks....  😊

You are just making excuses for your vastly wrong statement

Logic only knows wrong statements, "vastly wrong" pertain to rhetoric inflation...Sorry.... 😊

No discussion could go anywhere if someone does not distinguish natural timbre perception from a street musician for example and the noise or distorsion necessarily added from microphone choices and location trade-off to speakers, with in between these two, all other electronical additions and choices trade-off or distortion of the lived event from the recording and mixing itself ....

And we must also distinguish this original timbre event ultimately from the way and settings of our own room acoustic and electrical noise floor and mechanical gear constraints that will inhibit and/or make easier by a trade-off of their own also, a "recreation" with only a relative truth value in relation with the original timbre perception of this same recorded event....

It is the reason why acoustic settings and controls of the room of the listener plays a so great role in the recreation of the timbre "envelope" in his own way, without never duplicating the original timbre "envelope" ....It is not only the analog or digital source which play a major role, but the room acoustic is the last judge and jury at the same time and at the end of this recreation process...

It is why naturalness of musical timbre perception in the listener room is the benchmark test for any audio system and any acoustical recording of a single instrument....The piano for example....And this test perception will vary with each person, house, and gear....It is never a reproduction in the absolute sense it is a recreation....

Not only any musician know this, like non musician can or could, but they feel it in a more stronger way, unlike you and me.....Especially in the listening experience born with their own instrument....

Then arguing with a musician about "timbre" complex experience and concept is not wise....






«Even God cannot argue with Bach about contrapuntal logic, but my wife did it many times»-Groucho Marx

Live music is quite variable in its experience just as our systems are.  I have been to hundreds of live musical events in my 30 years of adulthood.  Sitting high up in the nose-bleed of a 20,000 arena listening to a band plan is more about being there than the sound of the music.  Sitting in the 2,500 seat Orpheum Theater here in downtown Memphis is a huge leap but still doesn't match my system.  I actually saw a band there a few years ago and had listened to them at home many times.  I was constantly comparing the sound of the concert song to my memory at home.  I even came home and listened to one of the albums after the concert and had the volume up louder than usual and it was far superior.  When you get into the really small venue with minimal amplification then you really start to hear the instruments.  Alejandro Escovedo used to do a lot of bar concerts with his string quartet.  His finale was an amazing song where they would unplug and come off stage into the crowd.  They created a circle where I was the 6th member of that circle.  I still get chills thinking about that experience as it brought tears to my eyes.  I don't ever hope for my stereo to create a true live event, but I am always analyzing the individual instruments and voices to sound realistic as if they were in my room.  That is what I believe we are all here for.  God I love music!  I went on a 2nd date tonight...I started laughing during dinner because she said, "I never listen to music".  I like her and am taking this as a challenge to open her eyes.  

Now we have a poster that thinks he is an art expert as well as an audiophile. Wrong on both accounts! I prefer some artists over others and the poster is wrong on how art is displayed. If you go into a Weinstein gallery and look at Nottebohm, Kincaid, Coleman, and other artist work, you will see dim rooms with lights highlighting each piece of art to see the highlights and the 3D effect of say Nottebohm. For music, I prefer good studio recordings most of the time mainly because live rock/jazz/blues performances for the last 20 years have been artificially bass boosted, and some areas have terrible acoustics. A good amphitheater or a smaller venue can sound spectacular.
As for my audio system, I want my system to sound like a real instrument: a 20” ride cymbal to sound different than a 16” ride/crash cymbal, a sax to sound like a sax, not some blurry substitute. This requires a good audio room and good audio equipment IMO