People complained with their " science opinions" for few bucks experiment confirmed by many people over decades...And true science is of no help here where only experiments could decide... There is even scientific papers experimenting now with this effect.... Look for on internet... Than only experiment can help for the time being in audio....I did the experiment myself because whose will complain about fun experiment for a few bucks ? Not me, only those with prejudices for sure... Open mind shut their mouth or try it...Who can a priori decide for a so complex effects on the brain,on the body and probably on the electrical field noise floor of the room ? The same one who "knows" from birth or with a very narrow expertise field projected out of their competence because of a dogmatic view of science...
Why some will hear nothing is very simple,it is not necessary to accuse of delusion all satisfied customers for decades because many hear nothing... It take a room able to deliver it and a system mechanically, electrically and acoustically that did not exceed a precise noise floor... The effect is vey audible but "subtle" at the same time because the way it affect S.Q. did not ressemble other effects...I know it...I will never has perceived it probably 7 years ago with the same audio system, noisier tough...
For example for most people probably Mikelavigne system would be perceived good...And mine relatively to his, bad....The difference between the 2 system exist, the "width" of the gulf is a debatable question but i have no doubt that his system is better than mine... Than very good system and less god one exist OBJECTIVELY...... But for many other costly system i prefer my 500 bucks system....This is also debatable and subjective....
Acoustic law and human psyche are more stable in spite of variations than those imposing universal defiance because of the differences.... The question is not about trust in others hearing or complete defiance, the problem and his solution is communication and experiments .... This is why we have audio thread....
And most wars between audiophiles comes less from reality than from limited knowledge and limited experience and very bad communication skills....Insulting people first is not a great communication skills... Instillating defiance instead of trust is not the best politic....Imposing dogmas and calling it science is not great intelligence at work.... Sorry.... I study too much in my life for thinking that a narrow field of science is even near the truth of all human experience.... Delusions in this century do not come from magicians astrologers and snake oil sellers, it comes directly from technocracy.... Not knowing that is being more than ignorant, it is staying voluntarily blind....My mind is not programmed to believe or to doubt but to think....
« Captives and jailors are like one another, warring brothers crushed by the same mechanic»-Anonymus Smith
«Are you not a marxist here?»-Groucho Marx
«Irony is the art of trust in the others ability to understand»-Anonymus Smith
«My jokes were always a commercial exhange with profit for all, i am a capitalist»-Groucho Marx
Why some will hear nothing is very simple,it is not necessary to accuse of delusion all satisfied customers for decades because many hear nothing... It take a room able to deliver it and a system mechanically, electrically and acoustically that did not exceed a precise noise floor... The effect is vey audible but "subtle" at the same time because the way it affect S.Q. did not ressemble other effects...I know it...I will never has perceived it probably 7 years ago with the same audio system, noisier tough...
Never trust what other people hear.This is a way too drastic opinion, because in spite of all structural differences between human ears and their particular histories, there is a relatively universal unanimity in audio about what is a relatively good system and what is a bad one....
For example for most people probably Mikelavigne system would be perceived good...And mine relatively to his, bad....The difference between the 2 system exist, the "width" of the gulf is a debatable question but i have no doubt that his system is better than mine... Than very good system and less god one exist OBJECTIVELY...... But for many other costly system i prefer my 500 bucks system....This is also debatable and subjective....
Acoustic law and human psyche are more stable in spite of variations than those imposing universal defiance because of the differences.... The question is not about trust in others hearing or complete defiance, the problem and his solution is communication and experiments .... This is why we have audio thread....
And most wars between audiophiles comes less from reality than from limited knowledge and limited experience and very bad communication skills....Insulting people first is not a great communication skills... Instillating defiance instead of trust is not the best politic....Imposing dogmas and calling it science is not great intelligence at work.... Sorry.... I study too much in my life for thinking that a narrow field of science is even near the truth of all human experience.... Delusions in this century do not come from magicians astrologers and snake oil sellers, it comes directly from technocracy.... Not knowing that is being more than ignorant, it is staying voluntarily blind....My mind is not programmed to believe or to doubt but to think....
« Captives and jailors are like one another, warring brothers crushed by the same mechanic»-Anonymus Smith
«Are you not a marxist here?»-Groucho Marx
«Irony is the art of trust in the others ability to understand»-Anonymus Smith
«My jokes were always a commercial exhange with profit for all, i am a capitalist»-Groucho Marx