Townshend Audio Podiums: The Full Review


I’ve been fascinated with the importance of vibration control for more than three decades now. A lot of my experience is already covered in Millercarbon's Mega Vibration Control Journey https://forum.audiogon.com/discussions/millercarbon-s-mega-vibration-control-journey The Journey ended with springs. Then I got Pods, and wrote Vibration Control and the Townshend Audio Seismic Pods https://forum.audiogon.com/discussions/vibration-control-and-the-townshend-audio-seismic-pods Now as we continue our journey forward it is time to review the Townshend Audio Podiums.  

Podiums are based on the same basic engineering used in Pods. A spring is encased in a rubber sleeve that functions as a sort of bellows, trapping the air inside. At the top the spring is attached to a threaded metal plate with a single very precise small hole in it. The threads are for height adjustment and the hole is to allow air to pass through. A very small, precision-controlled amount of air. This tiny little hole allows the air to function as a damper.  

A fundamental challenge with springs is they bounce. We want them to bounce. But we do not want them to keep bouncing! When that happens we say it resonates, and resonance adds color. It is a form of distortion, and we don’t want it. Springs all by themselves are already very good at isolation. Please read the above threads to see just how good they are. But even as good as they are springs do have this problem of resonance.  

The problem with damping is figuring out how to achieve it, and how much to use? The air valve method Max Townshend invented uses only a couple percent damping ratio and does this with air alone and no moving parts. Genius!  

The four damped spring towers are attached to a very dense, massive and inert plinth. My traditional knuckle rap test yielded a very satisfactory ’thunk’. Stiff and highly damped, it is also covered in an extremely durable and beautiful finish. Sliding speakers on and off left zero marks on them, and they really are handsome to look at.  

The damped spring towers at each corner are threaded for two different leveling adjustments. The first is to level the unloaded Podium on the floor. This first step eliminates any problems or situations where the floor is not perfectly level. This adjustment (if necessary) is made with a special thin wrench that comes supplied with the Podiums.

The speakers are then placed on the Podiums and fine tuned for precision placement. At this point, loaded with 150lbs worth of Moabs, making fine positioning adjustments on my thick carpet proved a bit of a challenge. The solution I came up with was BDR Round Things under the footers. Furniture gliders would probably also work. If it is even a problem. My carpet and pad are very thick. They do look like they will work beautifully on hardwood flooring.  

Once perfectly positioned the speakers are raised by turning the knobs at each corner. There is a process to doing this. First all four are turned equally, until all four corners are floating free and clear. It is essential to allow freedom of motion in all planes. Once this is achieved then the speakers can be adjusted perfectly level by turning the knobs in pairs- the two on the left or right, or the two on the front or back. Adjusting in pairs this way avoids diagonal rocking.  

Describing this process in print is hard but doing it in practice is easy. In fact this was the coolest part of setting them up! With the Podiums I was able to place my level right on the Podium. Even fully loaded with about 150lbs of Moabs and BDR the knobs turn silky smooth, and precision leveling is super easy.

Okay, okay, so how do they sound? In a word: wonderful! This can’t come as much of a surprise. They are after all basically Pods attached to a plinth, and the Pods work wonderfully under everything I have tried. Still, the Podiums are pretty impressive.  

The first thing I noticed was improvement in the direction of what I would call a more natural sound. Natural sounds are almost never described as having glare or strain. Natural sounds can be quite loud. But there is a difference in nature between a loud natural sound and the same sound through a system. They may measure the same volume but we have no trouble hearing the difference.

At this point I have to agree with Max and say that the difference is ringing. Natural sounds start and stop very quickly. Sounds reproduced by our systems cause the system itself to vibrate, then the room, and the room feeds back into the system until the whole thing is ringing like a bell. This all happens very fast and can be seen demonstrated on a seismograph placed on a speaker. https://youtu.be/BOPXJDdwtk4?t=6

In any case, whatever the explanation it is clear there is a lot less glare and strain with speakers on the Townshend Podiums. This results for me in a lot less listener fatigue. Another thing I find is that while I don’t necessarily need to turn the volume up, when I do it is way more enjoyable! The combination of speakers like Moabs capable of playing very loud and strain-free with Podiums is intoxicating!

The next thing I’m hearing is a massive improvement in what I would call truth of timbre, or tone, or whatever you want to call it that makes each individual instrument sound more like itself and not any other. Not the big differences that distinguish a steel from a string guitar, but the little details that distinguish one wood-bodied gut-stringed guitar from another. Not hyped-up count the spittle hitting the mic details either but the sort of tonal shadings that distinguish the real vocal talent from the second-tier. Even now after more than a month on Podiums still I put on records that have me going Wow that wood block really is a wood block!  

This is why I spent so much time explaining Max’s damping mechanism. Before Podiums my Moabs were on springs. The load was the same, and the springs were properly sized for the load. However, the springs on my DIY platforms were not damped. Consequently, they had their characteristic resonance. This resonance colors everything played on them. Like viewing the world through rose-colored glasses- you may like what you see but that ain’t the world! Now on Podiums the world as presented by the Moabs is full blown Ultra Panavision 70! https://vashivisuals.com/the-hateful-eight-ultra-panavision-70/

Those who follow me know I am not just about sound quality, I am also about value. Because I am so passionate about sound quality, but have only limited resources, I have to be. No way I have enough money to go chasing the latest and greatest. One look at my system anyone can see how hard I will work if it will get the job done for less. https://systems.audiogon.com/systems/8367 

For sure springs will do a very fine job for very low cost. Just about any spring, properly tuned and used, will outperform an awful lot of stuff that costs a whole lot more. For sure anyone in the market for good vibration control solutions- and that should be everyone! - should consider springs. But Townshend Podiums are so much better than ordinary springs that I have to say that even at their price they are not just as good value, but even better. They are that good.


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Well, I went a ahead an ordered a set of the Townshend Seismic Platforms #3 from England for my speakers. One was delivered yesterday the other is due to arrive on Monday.
 I cannot wait to read your report here...

You could not be wrong, if i judge by my own experiment with springs done right...

My own homemade approximate engineering experiment is very good and not comparable to my previous isolation sandwich which was good....And certainly not on par with the professionnally engineered and tested design of Townshend... Then....

My best to you....
ozzy4 - the same EXACT thing happened to me. The packages got separated and one was delivered on Thurs. and the other on Mon. Something that might be helpful - find a level area and level these things before placing them on the floor at which point you will relevel to conform to the floor. It you start with these things levelled that helps the levelling process on the floor. As the instructions will tell you, once the speaks are on the platforms you then re- level using the top nobs on the platform/podium. Good luck. 
The longer you work on your system the more things you have likely tried and, at a point, the population of things that "could" offer improvement gets smaller and smaller.

I know just what you mean. Because I was right there with that same way of thinking. First it was all you need is speakers, amp, source. Then wire. Okay so speakers, amp, source, wire. Then conditioner. Okay so.... you get the idea. Then if you clean the contacts, okay contacts clean, but now we are really running out of things to do. Right?

Not so fast: Room. Okay so acoustic panels. Rack. We have a good rack. Surely we are done now? What? Cones? Wait, what- springs are better than cones???! Okay now we are done. Sorry. Back to wires. It matters where they go. Okay so move the wires. No, not on the floor. Okay so up off the floor. Are we there yet???

The whole time this is going on, which is by the way not years but decades, in the background the whole time is a chorus of millions chanting, "diminishing returns, diminishing returns, diminishing returns."

Only instead of diminishing returns what I’m hearing is steady to occasionally increasing returns. One Schumann generator isn’t exactly transformative, but ten of them sure are and at only $10 each that is one hell of a strange sort of diminishing return! Don’t even get me going on the rubber bands, just one of several worth doing that cost zip!

Two plus grand for some Podiums might seem excessive under $4500 Moabs, until you hear it and realize how many tube traps it would take to clean up the bass this much, how many diffusers and absorbers, if such a thing even is possible. The improvement in clarity is so great I seriously doubt any amount of acoustic treatment can match what Podiums do.

The bottom line then is completely the opposite. The population of things that could be improvements is getting bigger. Not only that, it is no longer "could" but now with experience I know it is "will". Like for example the last thing I did was to my crossover, which I knew would be an improvement, the only remaining question being how much. Quite a lot, as I found out.

The beauty of all this is it is now quite easy to say with certainty that enough of the right tweaks and accessories can elevate performance far above anything attainable with the conventional big box component upgrade approach. This leaves me more stoked than ever to hear what lies ahead!

millercarbon:  " The bottom line then is completely the opposite. The population of things that could be improvements is getting bigger. Not only that, it is no longer "could" but now with experience I know it is "will". Like for example the last thing I did was to my crossover, which I knew would be an improvement, the only remaining question being how much. Quite a lot, as I found out.

The beauty of all this is it is now quite easy to say with certainty that enough of the right tweaks and accessories can elevate performance far above anything attainable with the conventional big box component upgrade approach. This leaves me more stoked than ever to hear what lies ahead!" 

And this brings us back to the original starting point -i.e. first speakers, the amps., etc., etc.  I think this is really why it is and what keeps it an interesting hobby. If you once became convinced there was nothing more to tinker with, experiment with and try it would become about as interesting as a chair and you would move on to something else that keeps your bank account at a manageably low level. 
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