Most rooms don’t need acoustical treatment.


Why?  Because acoustical treatments presented are in virtually empty rooms. Unrealistic.

my rooms have furniture and clutter.  These rooms don’t really have a need for treatment.  It’s snake oil, voodoo science.  
So why is accoustical panels gonna help?  No one can answer this, most have no clue.
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You are listening to two rooms. The room where the sound was recorded, and your listening room. You have a choice. Listen to one, or both.
Your room is the more powerful one, when disapearing itself she can let emerge the acoustic atmosphere of the original recorded event, and more importantly when she compensate for what has been lost in the recording event in his own way AND increase the positive aspects of the original acoustical event...

This is how powerful your room acoustic controls could be....I know it first hand....Passive materials treatment by the way are only HALF of the story, unbeknownst to most... Activation of the room/speakers relation with Helmholtz science is the missing half....

Acoustic sellers of bass traps dont inform us about that part...A right balance between,reflection,absorption and diffusion is not enough... It is half the story especially in small room irregular geometry, or complicated topology and acoustic content....We must recreate a depth imaging space encompassing the listener in spite of the irregular obstacle in the small room and we must refine the speakers/room timing frequencies wavefront for that.......Helmholtz science here help a lot..

I use a homemade simple "mechanical equaliser" only made of tubes, pipes and straws with capacity to modulate the neck at will.... The location is crux of matter... I will explain my method in my thread "miracles in audio" in the week to come...I called my device "Helmholtz pipe meeting the first wave front"...An electronic equalizer is NOT a mechanical equalizer... One work with a microphone, mine with ears, one work with very narrow frequencies responses,mine with large dyssimetrical modified frequencies response different fom each speakers without modyifying the drivers responses of each speakers but instead their first wave front relation with one another in the room...I am not a scientist only a creative mind who gave to myself the right tool... It work even if my knowledge of acoustic is elementary ....Peanuts cost by the way...

A room is NOT a passive sets of walls only , it is an organized sets of different pressure zones...

All seems good when you think that upgrading electronic is enough, save for those ignoring acoustic which pay the price, unwilling it or not...

By the way i only used discarded materials and homemade devices THEN setting a room could cost nothing... Listening time is the price....

The greatest asset in audio is NOT a 100,000 speakers and amplifier but a room you can control....It is not a turntable or a dac either, nor a tube amplifier instead of a solid state one; it is a room you can learn how to control sound....

This is the myths and useless wars between audiophiles in all threads.... Simple acoustic is always the main player....All the others players are secondary choices with their positives or negatives...

Acoustic reign supreme, uncontested queen of musical and sound perception for millenia.... Not your dac or your vinyl so good they are....

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But no, i read a paper once, now my knowledge is superior to everyone else.
You only know how to bash and attack...

NEVER here i mention myself being superior, on the contrary i discuss with all friends here about many simple devices to help each other S.Q. improving method...

The ONLY ONE here bashing all audiophiles and being sperior is yourself...

You bash, a real pro musician explaining TIMBRE, another engineer discussing with you about imaging and drivers, all turntables lovers, and anyone who dare to try a "tweaks" or any device out of your narrow perspective window...


I created my last device trying to understand something you NEVER explain here, the " depth imaging" creation in audio, i read some article trying to improve my IGNORANCE, and that inspired me a new device, which i use at the time where i typed these words on my computer....

Call that the name you want, i never pretend to be knowleadgeable like you to all here all the time, i am creative tough, know how to read when someone has nothing for arguments, except all the logical fallacies in his bag like strawman argument and appeal to authority and all fallacies in between .... I could deconstruct all your posts if it was not for a waste of time....

You never read the article suggested by me to you, and you have never figure out how work my "mechanical Helmholtz equalizer"...Anyway i dont think that you even know that you dont understrand epistemology, and real acoustic out of the recording engineering window... Sorry.... I am ignorant too but i proved for myself that i tried to learn, my device is my exam....I dont need your superior knowledge, it is not useful to improve my S.Q. ....


 I erased my question.....

I will retype it now for the reader sake...

Is it me the idiot?

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Thanks...

But i know already that myself.... All my life i tried to learn a bit more out of my window...

You are right but not the way intended... Some idiot are more reformable and recoverable it seems...

By the way read the best book on stupidity by Carlo Cipolla free on the net.... a masterpiece...

He define stupidity being someone who bash others without gaining anything for himself in the process even at the price of losing his own credibility ...Except the pleasure to do it.....

Who knows perhaps i suffer the Kruger-Dunning syndrome like you observe perhaps even rightfully ? But i prefer to be an idiot than being stupid in the Cipolla sense... I dont like despising group of people and any people...

Then the difference between being an idiot and being stupid is the idiot dont bash others, the stupid did it all the times.... I definitely prefer to be a reformable idiot....Even with this Dunner-Kruger syndrome....

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