I have to agree with cliff12, even though he lobbed his billboard into a thread he has no interest in, as Ozzy mentioned, that at a certian level of committment the serious audiophile must get serious about the room. In my experience most well furnished symetrical rooms don't need too much, but if you don't have symetry your missing a large percent of the picture. It's always amusing to hear about cable nuances from guys that have one speaker in their bathroom and other in front of their dishwasher.
So still no comparisons to the Oragutans?