New turntable: TW or Obama?


About to take the plunge on a table to replace my venerable SOTA Star/SME V.

Top contenders: TW Acustic Raven LS or a Kuzma Stabi R with wood base.  Arm options are the TW 10.5 on the former, or something else.  Would likely get the Kuzma 4 point for the latter.

Anyone with experience and an opinion on these analog tables?

Cost wise they are similar, both under $20K.

Thanks!
bobbydd
It depends. Obama was born in 61, so you might want to consider age as a factor.
The TW Arm is brilliant. Simple, elegant, competently engineered. The TW table is also nice--I spent many hours listening to a friends TOTL Raven with the 10.5 arm. If you are at all interested in a different drive system, check out the Sempersonus TE-2. I'm using a 12" TW arm with this table and it really sings. The TE-2 uses an inner rim drive system that is fantastic--quiet, stable, reliable. The combination has the drive and PRaT of an idler with the detail retrieval of a great belt drive like the Raven. 
@bobbydd,

I will say what others besides myself may be thinking about your post.   What are you trying to pull with the title?
Guys, my apologies on the title.  A victim of my smart device's auto check.  I proof read my post but forgot to check the title.

But maybe I'm getting more left wing feedback and interest so it's all good ....

:)
Both tables look great ones . I’m partial to the wood. These days I care about looks than I used to.