Speakers The single most critical component
Box speakers? Heck no, I’ve listened to electrostatics for 40 years!All is relative to the installation, vibration/resonance control and acoustic.... My box speakers ( 50 dollars used) sound better in my good room than my friend in principle "better" magnepan in a bad room .... They are so good any upgrade is useless....Dont ask me the branded name ask me how is it possible? any relatively good speaker could deliver miraculous sound....Any..... Anyway all qualities coming from any type of speakers is a balanced trade-off with ALWAYS positive and negative.... Especially for speakers under some money treshold....The room acoustic can help greatly to compensate some aspect of this trade off....My mechanical equaliser is PART of my speakers and PART of the room....Then for me speaking of speakers on the shelf of the manufacturer for their design advantages is not the way to go through the essential .... They most work in a specific room to reveal their potential.... Like i said acoustic is the sleeping princess and everyone pay attention to only the 7 working dwarves.... |
@ larryi and @ phusis Yes exactly, Trade offs is expected, But the tradeoffs employing the Thors is not worth the fine vocals, bass. have to add gain to get results and this means stress and = music has a certain attack quality. There are nice things about the seas Thors , but next to any high sens FR, it isa wet blanket speaker = dinasaur. Although Ines at Vox and Richard both hold the belief SET's are ideal amps for FR. Here you can listen to a PP with the 6.5 Diatone 95db, Vifa tweet 91db. Its not bad at all, in fact quite nice, = could live with this speaker and not go any further. But my quest takes further. From the SET uploads on YT, there is not 1 that I can say <,WOW>> I am using the tweet section of the Thors for the Vifa. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YxdfV1TbTLA |
@phusis yes, good eye, that is a Genelec HT3 sub. It is part of a home theater system completely separate from the 2 channel. I have a Trinnov processor running a 7.3.6 system. You can see the L-R Paradigms sitting inside the bass horns too. You can't see the 10 foot screen that hinges down from the ceiling in front of the rack or the 4K Sony projector in the back of the room. I'll post that system one of these days Genelec is highly recommended BTW |
Seems like the Speaker shootout at the OK Corral i started wayyy back in 2001? has not been settled. This topid is now Speaker Shootout Part 2. WE've all come alonggg way since then. It was simply amazing how the single Diatone 6.5 driver blew away the Seas Thor, all due to one tiny characteristic specification. ~~Sensitivity~~. This to me is critical , all important ingredient when conisderinga speaker, Test/charts, I am not the least bit interested. The Diatone/Vifa might have peaks and valleys, all over the chart, off axis, etc. I am not even the least interested. If speaker A sounds superior to speaker B, thats all that counts, But then we must consider the listener's ears, = what exactly is he looking for. as Mentioned by larryi above. It all comes down to ,,well yes and no, If any audiophile can honestly say the Thors sound superior to the Diatone 6.5, I question his ability to hear, or he may need a hearing aid, Juts seems to me, the new developments in single point source/FR drivers over the past 10 years, has resulted in significant gains in high fidelity resolution. This is the purpose to this topic. To shed light on the new FR technology as the true champion, the king of all speaker designs. 2nd to none. Now we need to explore what amplification is allowed to be matched to these new single source drivers. ZSeems the SET amplification has been officially coveted as the only amplification for the task. But there are draw backs with the SETs. They do not produce music likea PP can in certain complex, hard driven signals. They can get overwhelmed witha single 845 trying to master all the complexities thrown its way. PP has the muscle to channel all that high voltage music. |
