What do we hear when we change the direction of a wire?


Douglas Self wrote a devastating article about audio anomalies back in 1988. With all the necessary knowledge and measuring tools, he did not detect any supposedly audible changes in the electrical signal. Self and his colleagues were sure that they had proved the absence of anomalies in audio, but over the past 30 years, audio anomalies have not disappeared anywhere, at the same time the authority of science in the field of audio has increasingly become questioned. It's hard to believe, but science still cannot clearly answer the question of what electricity is and what sound is! (see article by A.J.Essien).

For your information: to make sure that no potentially audible changes in the electrical signal occur when we apply any "audio magic" to our gear, no super equipment is needed. The smallest step-change in amplitude that can be detected by ear is about 0.3dB for a pure tone. In more realistic situations it is 0.5 to 1.0dB'". This is about a 10% change. (Harris J.D.). At medium volume, the voltage amplitude at the output of the amplifier is approximately 10 volts, which means that the smallest audible difference in sound will be noticeable when the output voltage changes to 1 volt. Such an error is impossible not to notice even using a conventional voltmeter, but Self and his colleagues performed much more accurate measurements, including ones made directly on the music signal using Baxandall subtraction technique - they found no error even at this highest level.

As a result, we are faced with an apparently unsolvable problem: those of us who do not hear the sound of wires, relying on the authority of scientists, claim that audio anomalies are BS. However, people who confidently perceive this component of sound are forced to make another, the only possible conclusion in this situation: the electrical and acoustic signals contain some additional signal(s) that are still unknown to science, and which we perceive with a certain sixth sense.

If there are no electrical changes in the signal, then there are no acoustic changes, respectively, hearing does not participate in the perception of anomalies. What other options can there be?

Regards.
anton_stepichev
I’m sorry I can’t come up with a logical reason why we should believe in a sixth sense or if there are unknown signals in wires. I don’t even know where to criticize the ... I hesitate to say logic? That’s your conclusion isn’t it?

additional signal(s) that are still unknown to science, and which we perceive with a certain sixth sense.

djones51
I’m sorry I can’t come up with a logical reason why we should believe in a sixth sense or if there are unknown signals in wires. I don’t even know where to criticize the ... I hesitate to say logic? That’s your conclusion isn’t it?
additional signal(s) that are still unknown to science, and which we perceive with a certain sixth sense.

Yes, you quoted the conclusion, not the logical chain that led to that conclusion and I was not asking you to believe it. I was asking about a possible error in the logic that leads to this conclusion. starting with the audibility of a particular effect according to electrical engineering. Where exactly can there be a possible mistake?


I have pointed out the error that led to the conclusion. 

However, people who confidently perceive this component of sound are forced to make another, the only possible conclusion
The error is your refusal to accept there could be another conclusion. Your error is accepting the belief of those who claim to "confidently perceive " there is a difference in the sound. In science you don't accept beliefs you test for proof. Until you acknowledge the fact that humans are easily fooled and have biases you'll never convince anyone outside those who already agree with your flawed methodology. 
Your error is accepting the belief of those who claim to "confidently perceive " there is a difference in the sound. In science you don’t accept beliefs you test for proof.
Are you serious?

He himself listened to a difference with his directed wiring amplifier...

You are THE ONE with a belief...you believe it is IMPOSSIBLE....

Are you insane and unable to think by YOURSELF and only able to repeat the technological credo of some other here because he said so?

I myself have NO OPINION in this matter.... But i want to listen and discuss with someone who had an experience...Without putting him on a tribunal writing his own rule for the judgement...

Blindtest is a tool at most, not a PROOF of reality for complex phenomena....His experiment must be take at heart by someone else...And repeated....

Anyway a blindtest in this case is IMPOSSIBLE... It is not a cable sellers here...He will not give you a cable to verify.... ask Ted Denney for one...

Think without repeating scientist mantra....