Why Do So Many Audiophiles Reject Blind Testing Of Audio Components?


Because it was scientifically proven to be useless more than 60 years ago.

A speech scientist by the name of Irwin Pollack have conducted an experiment in the early 1950s. In a blind ABX listening test, he asked people to distinguish minimal pairs of consonants (like “r” and “l”, or “t” and “p”).

He found out that listeners had no problem telling these consonants apart when they were played back immediately one after the other. But as he increased the pause between the playbacks, the listener’s ability to distinguish between them diminished. Once the time separating the sounds exceeded 10-15 milliseconds (approximately 1/100th of a second), people had a really hard time telling obviously different sounds apart. Their answers became statistically no better than a random guess.

If you are interested in the science of these things, here’s a nice summary:

Categorical and noncategorical modes of speech perception along the voicing continuum

Since then, the experiment was repeated many times (last major update in 2000, Reliability of a dichotic consonant-vowel pairs task using an ABX procedure.)

So reliably recognizing the difference between similar sounds in an ABX environment is impossible. 15ms playback gap, and the listener’s guess becomes no better than random. This happens because humans don't have any meaningful waveform memory. We cannot exactly recall the sound itself, and rely on various mental models for comparison. It takes time and effort to develop these models, thus making us really bad at playing "spot the sonic difference right now and here" game.

Also, please note that the experimenters were using the sounds of speech. Human ears have significantly better resolution and discrimination in the speech spectrum. If a comparison method is not working well with speech, it would not work at all with music.

So the “double blind testing” crowd is worshiping an ABX protocol that was scientifically proven more than 60 years ago to be completely unsuitable for telling similar sounds apart. And they insist all the other methods are “unscientific.”

The irony seems to be lost on them.

Why do so many audiophiles reject blind testing of audio components? - Quora
artemus_5
Chill out folks. Nobody is going to come knocking to blind test your stuff without permission. If they do give them the boot. It’s your domain and your right to prohibit any practice you like. Let the test police find some other poor victim to harass!  Does it ever end?
^^^true

but its good to give some push back. the nerds wanna take over the house. not on my watch lol
@cleeds @penguinpower

I think you are right about exposure. They may not even have what we would call a system. But i suspect they’re often young and maybe have some electronics exposure and want to impress everyone with their knowledge.
They remind me of the kid who had taken auto mechanics in school & just got his first car. Then he goes to the drag strip with his new 4 banger and tells the racers with 30 yrs experience how they are wrong.

@penguinpower

but its good to give some push back. the nerds wanna take over the house. not on my watch lol


That’ s partially why I started this thread. Far too many newbies here who are too dogmatic about their measurements dogma. There is plenty of evidence showing its inadequacies. Paul McGowan and many others have given good info on it. But the new know it alls don't accept it
^^^artemus, there are those too. 
A few life examples:

guys tells me bbq cant get any better than his local guy, but has never tasted product from a true pit master

me telling my wife, the wine is costco is all I need, wife pays for a wine tasting in Paris selected by an excellent sommelier, I eat crow

the people who try and lump all things in one bucket dont know there are truly fine things in this world. Beer, cars, shoot, I even learned to appreciate a good chair recently. 


Btw, I still cant pick and excellent wine for the life of me. But I know what one tastes like.