Why is science just a starting point and not an end point?


Measurements are useful to verify specifications and identify any underlying issues that might be a concern. Test tones are used to show how equipment performs below audible levels but how music performs at listening levels is the deciding criteria. In that regard science fails miserably.

Why is it so?
pedroeb
Why is science incapable of providing even the slightest indication why equipment is judged by knowledgeable people as superior?
Science is capable of providing the slightest indication that you might start wondering just how knowledgeable these "people" are?
Simple answer. Science is behind the curve because we do not know everything there is to know about sound, electricity, metallurgy, and how humans perceive sound. We know some things, but definitely not everything. Not even close. In short, we lack understanding. 

This is not a strange phenomenon. We have always lacked understanding. And thank goodness for that. It means we will never stop enquiring and learning as we try and come up with answers of what we observe. 

Why some "engineers" (roll eyes) on this forum think they know everything about human hearing and the measurement of sound and electricity is beyond me. That would mean there is nothing more to learn on this topic which is baloney. We know more than we knew 50 years ago, in after the next 50 years, we will know more than we know today.
Not only there is too much variables and parameters to test for and pounder one against the other.... It is only half of the picture...

But the audio system is evaluated in quality by a particular ears/consciouness...

We do not know what is consciousness related to our world...We use consciousness daily, but why it is? what it is ?, we dont have a clue....For sure we know more than cavemen....I say that for the science cultist skeptic of anything out of his narrow blinders...

We do not know what is water or light ultimately, we use them through the most sophisticated technologies for their specific properties, but why it is, what it is ,we dont have a clue....For sure we know more than cavemen...We know sometimes how....

My favorite example is the distribution of prime numbers, which is a "discovered" fact through the " invention" by men of the symbolic numeral systems, we use primes to lock and define our monetary technology and all internet flow security, for example, but why it is what it is, we dont have a clue.... The only one in this century to have a clueabout primes when asked by Hardy why it is what it is , has been answered by Ramanujan this is the will of God....

Then pretending that science will know, is premature, like for a caveman saying that one day he will compute the distribution of primes while flying to the moon, with only light for wings and only special water to feed himself...

A beatiful story...But having imagination is not having a clue and knowing how, what and especially why....

Technology IS NOT science...

Why is not HOW and how is not WHAT....

Consciousness is the only phenomena which is absolute for all the others to be manifested...

Explaining the why of anything is equal to be able to explain consciousness...

Those who knows are not scientist....Or if they are like Ramanujan or Swedenborg and if you asked for an answer they will say the answer is "love" or "God"....

Ask Swedenborg, one of the great scientist on par with Newton for knowledge....Who even guessed in 17 century, holography and fractal geometry, i read it myself by the way, and who knows everything someone could know in his century....

Or like an ignorant  you could disqualify the same  answer of  two of the greatest mind in the history of mankind : Ramanujan and Swedenborg....And laugh of their identical answer from 2 totally different culture....

And go on in audio thread pleading for measuring a dac or an amplifier to know how it will sound...Or better mock me when i put a piece of shungite on my central electrical panel...

This is how stupid people could be...


I've kind of covered this a few times recently.

What you are describing isn't science, it is measurements and technology.

For it to be science it has to evolve, and help connect the measurements to perception or desirability.

Measuring distortion or frequency response is NOT science.  It is 70 year old measurements.
I’ve kind of covered this a few times recently.

What you are describing isn’t science, it is measurements and technology.

For it to be science it has to evolve, and help connect the measurements to perception or desirability.

Measuring distortion or frequency response is NOT science. It is 70 year old measurements.
You said it better than me thanks....

Some dont even know that this CORRELATION between physical acoustic and neurophysiology of perception is one of the most fundamental science for audio: psychoacoustic....

Some more narrow minded even wanted to reduce the study of perception to only pure technology....They wanted to erase consciousness from the perception "equation" and make it pure physical science.......

A.I. cultist.....