Why Do So Many Audiophiles Reject Blind Testing Of Audio Components?


Because it was scientifically proven to be useless more than 60 years ago.

A speech scientist by the name of Irwin Pollack have conducted an experiment in the early 1950s. In a blind ABX listening test, he asked people to distinguish minimal pairs of consonants (like “r” and “l”, or “t” and “p”).

He found out that listeners had no problem telling these consonants apart when they were played back immediately one after the other. But as he increased the pause between the playbacks, the listener’s ability to distinguish between them diminished. Once the time separating the sounds exceeded 10-15 milliseconds (approximately 1/100th of a second), people had a really hard time telling obviously different sounds apart. Their answers became statistically no better than a random guess.

If you are interested in the science of these things, here’s a nice summary:

Categorical and noncategorical modes of speech perception along the voicing continuum

Since then, the experiment was repeated many times (last major update in 2000, Reliability of a dichotic consonant-vowel pairs task using an ABX procedure.)

So reliably recognizing the difference between similar sounds in an ABX environment is impossible. 15ms playback gap, and the listener’s guess becomes no better than random. This happens because humans don't have any meaningful waveform memory. We cannot exactly recall the sound itself, and rely on various mental models for comparison. It takes time and effort to develop these models, thus making us really bad at playing "spot the sonic difference right now and here" game.

Also, please note that the experimenters were using the sounds of speech. Human ears have significantly better resolution and discrimination in the speech spectrum. If a comparison method is not working well with speech, it would not work at all with music.

So the “double blind testing” crowd is worshiping an ABX protocol that was scientifically proven more than 60 years ago to be completely unsuitable for telling similar sounds apart. And they insist all the other methods are “unscientific.”

The irony seems to be lost on them.

Why do so many audiophiles reject blind testing of audio components? - Quora
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@jssmith    
Doesn’t surprise me to hear that was their findings.

Would think that the most familiar “sounds” coming from speakers would be the ones people would connect to. Wonder if they were “civilians” in the tests?


@perkri: I've read Harman uses both trained employees and trained and untrained civilians. I remember reading that they also did sighted and blind tests with their own engineers and, as expected, the sighted tests had completely different results. 

Here is a short blog post by Sean Olive saying that four speakers were tested by hundreds of untrained listeners.

Most of the information about their procedures and results can be found in his blog posts. And some by reading Toole's book.

I don't own any Harman products except a $180 pair of studio monitors for my computer that I only use to play guitar through, just in case anyone might think I'm a Harman zealot.


I don't own any Harman products either but I recognize the importance of those tests. I think since the time they were conducted and now there are speaker manufacturers who are influenced by them at least in the pro market. 
Can we please just put this discussion to bed? Obviously there is some benefit to blind testing, which takes some effort to set up properly, but it is not the be all and end all, especially for the situations where a test is not possible.
@sokogear

+10000

but there are numerous threads here, finger-powered by a very ''special'' few... that just won’t die - despite very much deserving of immediate demise