Why audiophiles are different (explained with color)


A very interesting video on color and color perception. How it comes into being.

In the act of doing so, it illustrates how the complexity of the high end audio world comes into existence.. 

at the same time it explains how we end up with almost what you would call 'violent detractors'. Negative detractors.

People unable to discern nuance. Audio haters. As in .....non evolved people, regarding audio.

This is not a put down, it merely uses the words to describe the position in life they are in at the time. They may evolve more into the given audio directions, or they may not. It is a matter of will, choice, time, and innate capacity to do so.

Why The Ancient Greeks Couldn't See Blue
teo_audio
We need words to communicate but words help us to engage in a pointed direction , like a maestro with his words and gestures conducting an orchestra.... But they are not the experience nor the music...

The Vocabulary of audio is useful to describe the electronic performance of the gear....thats all...

The performance of a system cannot be judged by amplified music or electrical music...

Why?

Because we are designed for a long time now to hear timbre voices in speech recognition....This is an evolutive fact...

All our music come from human voice not from electronic moog synthetiser....

I trust my ears listening subtle piano cues or voices in a choir to decide if my audio system is optimal not his way to give a great rock concert with electrical guitars in decibels and bass ....

Recognizing sounds frequencies is one thing, recognizing timbre is completely another thing and the two are not superimposable with one another or dont overlay completely with one another....

This is psychoacoustic scientific fact....

Music is not sound but through sound , and music is not also only signals in a sea of noise....Music is from another time than the physical clock, and from another space than the usual geometry of the physical world...And music speak about other colors than the one we know of in the physical world , like the precise color of the mother voice in Mahler kindertotenlieder....Listen in your heart and memory to the colored voice of your own mother adressing you when hurted to have an idea about music....Speaking of sound with acousti vocabulary after that is ridiculous...

Colors are not color they are world in itself....like a musical tone....And they are together a new body....

The great composers create new cosmos.... The great musician recreate our body.....It is what i look for....






Any attempt in enlightenment which attains group consensus... is inherently incorrect.
Many things exist on a continuous spectrum.

Language often attempts to chop that spectrum up into discrete units.  Take watery precipitation: drizzle, rain, downpour, etc.

For the same spectrum, different languages may chop at different points along the spectrum, and they may create a greater or lesser number of discrete units along the spectrum.

Within a given language, as Saussure demonstrated, meaning depends on members of that language group having broad agreement as to what a particular word refers to, as, with the exception of onomatopoeia, the relationship between word (and the sound of the word) and thing is purely a matter of convention.
Any attempt in enlightenment which attains group consensus... is inherently incorrect.
And if I happen to disagree, does that confirm the statement is true? :-)
I do think it depends a great deal on a qualified sample group.
 
@teo_audio - interesting concepts shared here. I do see enough agreement on appraisals of devices and technologies, means of getting better performance etc. Sufficiently enough agreement to glimpse patterns of helpful and knowledgeable audiophiles, even some disputes where passionate people will take the time to actually compile well thought out cases for their thoughts.

These people, willing to discuss their opinions, with reasons for an opinion, these I respect the more. Not that they agree or not, but that they are willing to relate why their opinion aught to be weighed up.

Thank you for this thread, and these last half a dozen posts, I have read and see merit in each discourse.
@mahgister,

An audiophile is someone who can transform TOTALLY his room with 1/4 inches straw lenghth.... I guess i am one.... 😉
A consumer is someone who will spend many thousand of dollars to do the same thing.... 😎
Only superstitious conditioned mind or professional sellers think that audiophile experience is money invested directly related....I listen to a bad system whose value was 300,000 bucks....You know why? They lack a straw at the right spot....


This microdynamic expressing gesture of playing between 2 instruments locked one with the other by their "rythmical resonance" is after timbre experience the most important criteria about an audio system for me...
It is the only reason why i would upgrade, if i could afford it, my 500 bucks system to a 15,000 bucks one...( yes i calculate the price even if i could never afford it) 

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This is THE major problem with this hobby.

Gaining that last bit of improvement (especially when it comes to timbral accuracy) might well mean you have to spend 30 times more!