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@millercarbon @rixthetrick

Thanks guys...I got a reply from John at Townshend. I sent him the Imgur pics of my speakers and system and he didn't address it specifically but said the following very matter of factly: "Thank you for your enquiry,
We always recommend Isolating your speakers and floating your rack on our Seismic Corners,
I am very happy to supply a pair of our Size 3 Podiums with D Cells for $xxxx. I also recommend floating your stand on our Seismic Corners, can you kindly work out roughly the weight of stand + equipment on top please,  A Set of 4 F Type Seismic Corners will be great which I am very happy to supply for $xxxx. Isolating your Speakers + stand will offer total Isolation down to 3hz."--------After receiving this, I realized that there is barely any peripheral room beyond my speakers corners for the podium exterior. My right speaker is nearly against a wall, toed in and the left speakers right corner nearly abuts up against my Sound Anchors amp stand. Speakers cannot be moved.

So I have no choice but to use the isolation bars from left to right. Do they work exactly as good as the Podiums?
Does it count for anything that when I put my phone on the tile right in front of a speaker cranking music, that with a Hamm Seismograph app on, there is absolutely no vibration registered on the tile?

I ask as maybe all I'd need is to float my equipment rack on the Seismic Support Isolation Corners. That seems like an incredible bang for the buck and simpler than isolating both turntables, CD player, Classe processor, Model 12 amp and tube phono drive separately.

I guess the recommendation is to never use my sub in 2 channel supported only on its cones/spikes?

I'd have no problem putting my heavy Sub on Nobsound springs. If they could support 140 pounds.

Did someone mention that bass is lost with the Townshend podiums?

The only fly in the ointment is I don't see an easy way to get to the back right corner to lift the equipment rack to put an isolation support corner. There is no room to get in there. Like 10" unless I pull the rack away from the walls and slide it back? ....I could use a dolly to lift up the other accessible corners. Maybe I could use a Seismic Isolation Pod in that tough corner. But I'd have to remove the spike first. Tough!  Maybe pull the rack all the way out, put the Isolation Support Corner on the spike and slide it back? Will the pod rubber slide over tile and grout lines? .....Thinking cap time!
Sorry for all the stream of consciousness questions. I definitely want to do something but do the right thing. However I need to know the answers before I order....Thanks!

Pods, Bars, Platforms and Podiums are all basically the same technology. They all use essentially the same air-damped spring suspension isolation. The main difference is in how they connect. Podiums use a big massive and constrained layer damped plinth. Platforms the plinth is a different shape not as massive. Bars it is a bar and Pods go directly under whatever. Pods are really great bang for the buck, because you are not paying for the constrained layer damped plinth. Also the coating on this stuff is a real high tech durable marvel of a coating! 

Might seem you can do it all in one fell swoop with the rack. For sure that will be an improvement. But there is also a lot of vibration generated within the component itself. I learned this one a long time ago, and it has carried through with everything since. It is even hard to say for sure which is more susceptible, the turntable or CDP or DAC! I know that sounds counterintuitive but I tried Pods first under my turntable and was hard for John to talk me into trying under the amp, but then surprised when it was at least as good under the amp as turntable!

So if it is a budget thing I would do Pods directly under whatever is the most cherished source, and if they are all used pretty evenly then maybe do the rack instead. But we are throwing darts here. There is no wrong answer and it is a lot of work comparing trying to split hairs on which is better at this point.

Nobody believes me when I say this, they look at what I have done and it seems nuts, but I really do say don't sweat the small stuff. When people come over and hear how big a difference some of these things make then they understand. If the difference isn't pretty big I don't bother. Too many things really do make a big difference to waste time fretting over what might be maybe slightly even better.

The guy who I think you mean with bass loss, he had very inefficient Harbeth speakers with a small amp and very little bass to begin with. The thing about bass, a lot of what we experience as bass is vibrations coming through the floor up through the legs and butt. That is where we feel it, legs and butt. Put speakers on Podiums the bass actually has at least as much slam, dynamics and extension. But instead of feeling it in the legs it is all through the air and you feel it in your chest and gut. Whole different thing, much more like real music. But in his case he was loving that legs and butt bass and with nowhere near enough power for real bass he was left feeling a lack of bass. 

Another thing that happens, since the floor is not being excited the same way a lot of what we call room resonance is really the floor and walls vibrating and with Podiums there is so much less of this it is almost like adding tube traps. Mike Lavigne has an absolutely awesome room and coming home after being there the first time it was like mine sucks. Then I got Pods and Podiums and some other stuff, no room treatment at all but after visiting Mike this second time all of a sudden my room was a lot better. Still nowhere near the same league but still seriously better. So you can probably expect a lot more clean bass in the room than you would ever have thought possible. Assuming you are not marginal but starting with adequate bass to begin with you should be fine.

Laptop "ate" my first response before it got posted, tried to write it again and just now noticed the second time around I neglected to credit Rick with the bass difference. He let me know to expect this even before it happened. It is one of the ways you can be sure the speaker isolation is working, you feel the bass in your chest and gut more so than in the legs and butt. It is a big strange at first, finding yourself expecting one thing and getting another. Did not take long at all though to know which is better.

So I have no choice but to use the isolation bars from left to right. Do they work exactly as good as the Podiums?
Does it count for anything that when I put my phone on the tile right in front of a speaker cranking music, that with a Hamm Seismograph app on, there is absolutely no vibration registered on the tile?

I have not heard the podiums under speakers, the bars work very well.
So the substrate already doesn't move whatsoever? Even with your hand you feel nothing? even on your rack?

@rixthetrick

If I have my phone on the speaker and stomp on my tile, there are no vibrations registered on the phone. If I'm blasting music and place my phone on the tile in front of the speaker, there are no vibrations on the Seismograph. My tile is bonded to the concrete foundation of my house. It is dead solid and silent for vibrations.
But, if I'm cranking the music and put my phone on the speaker, there is a lot of vibration. On the rack where the tt's will sit, there is a small amount of vibration. Mostly on the Z plane. But will that get mitigated by my Basis tables silicone filled pods where my table can shimmy like speakers do on the Townshend podiums? My Vertere MG-1 table is a suspended table as well. Millercarbon's table itself does not look to be suspended. But it is on an isolation platform.

If I understand correctly though, isolating the speakers with Townshend bars will help the speakers sound much better. Is that correct?

@millercarbon makes a point. Even if my rack is on isolation corners, can the individual components still vibrate within its shelf? That would be important to address. John from Townshend made it sound like But, there is no room under my Classe processor/DAC or Model 12 for pods. The Classe takes up nearly the whole rack opening.
So the isolation corners seem like my only option for the equipment on my rack. The right back corner will be a bear to get one under.

The Mezzo Utopia's bass is solid. And down to 35Hz. 92.5dB sensitivity.