Speaker size and soundstage


Question: for floor standing speakers, how does speaker size affect sound stage, bass response, and the depth of music?

I’m searching for a new speaker, and just tested Dynaudio Contour 30 against Tekton Electrons (16x18 room with cathedral ceiling). Tekton’s are bigger (48 vs 45 high, and 10 vs 8.5 wide, about the same depth) and had a much larger sound stage and greater dynamics and depth. Tekton’s as a rule are much bigger than most other brands, which can be imposing in a room, but the size must equate to a greater sound stage. 
But can a smaller tower be designed to achieve the same sound stage and bass depth of a bigger speaker? If so, what what speakers pull this off?
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Tektons, at least the ones I have heard image poorly. But so do a lot of speakers. This is political incorrectness at it's best but, most people have never heard a system that images at the level the source is capable of and that includes those that would characterize themselves as audiophiles. They parrot the terminology used in the literature which is frequently stupid like "pace" and "timing" and think that echo is the third dimension. It is not. Some speakers like the Tektons are incapable of the best image by design. But, many are capable if managed correctly. What is correctly? The speakers have to be set up in a symmetrical situation.
All first reflections need to be dampened with sound absorption. The speakers have to be within 1 dB of each other from 100 Hz to 10 kHz.
If they are not all is not lost. You will have to apply digital EQ to make it so. This also allows you to adjust the overall frequency response to produce the sound you like. Doing all of this does not insure you will get the best image. That depends on the speaker's design particularly the crossover. How do you know if you have the best image or not? You have to have heard a system that images at this level. Once you do you will never forget it. If you do not have it now it is all about the speaker and the room. If you are sure you have the room treated correctly then you need to change speakers. I can count the speakers on one hand that I have heard make the magic. Most of the speakers that I have owned did not and only two have really had it. 




You have to have heard a system that images at this level.

Indeed. You should try it some time. Redmond, WA.

https://systems.audiogon.com/systems/8367
Tektons, at least the ones I have heard image poorly. But so do a lot of speakers. This is political incorrectness at it's best but, most people have never heard a system that images at the level the source is capable of and that includes those that would characterize themselves as audiophiles. They parrot the terminology used in the literature which is frequently stupid like "pace" and "timing" and think that echo is the third dimension. It is not. Some speakers like the Tektons are incapable of the best image by design. But, many are capable if managed correctly. What is correctly? The speakers have to be set up in a symmetrical situation.All first reflections need to be dampened with sound absorption. The speakers have to be within 1 dB of each other from 100 Hz to 10 kHz.If they are not all is not lost. You will have to apply digital EQ to make it so. This also allows you to adjust the overall frequency response to produce the sound you like. Doing all of this does not insure you will get the best image. That depends on the speaker's design particularly the crossover. How do you know if you have the best image or not? You have to have heard a system that images at this level. Once you do you will never forget it. If you do not have it now it is all about the speaker and the room. If you are sure you have the room treated correctly then you need to change speakers. I can count the speakers on one hand that I have heard make the magic. Most of the speakers that I have owned did not and only two have really had it.


 I dont know Tektons...

 But i know what is acoustic control....


You prove yourself  to be an ignorant because you judge all people with ONE experience : yours...

 This is  your sentence:
«They parrot the terminology used in the literature which is frequently stupid like "pace" and "timing" and think that echo is the third dimension.»

 You apply this judgement AGAINST all people indiscriminately, even if  each of their experience is different...

What arrogance ! And  arrogance could be colorful and egotistical, but arrogance could be also  grey and boring like  stupidity is.,..

 And  what do you say after these are your words :

«
Some speakers like the Tektons are incapable of the best image by design. But, many are capable if managed correctly. What is correctly? The speakers have to be set up in a symmetrical situation.
All first reflections need to be dampened with sound absorption. The speakers have to be within 1 dB of each other from 100 Hz to 10 kHz.»

 First you dont have experience with Tekton and claiming that they are "by design" unable to image correctly  is  a claim so stupid that anybody reading that need no argument to judge you like you are ... I will not use any word... 

Almost ALL relatively correctly designed speakers are able to image correctly...

 You affirmation that first reflections must be "dampened with sound absorption" in ALL circonstance and for all room reflect your TOTAL ignorance of acoustic .....


 I am surprize by your stupidity because in some other post you reveal that your own  speakers electronically  equalized image ONLY  with a sound between the speakers....

 This is very poor experience....

 Imaging and soundstage, and source width and listener envelopment are all acoustical factors linked together when any room is under control....mine is and my experience is not a distorted echo, but an orchestra in my room or a piano completely out of the speakers... And my speakers are average good speakers....

 NO electronical equalization can do this.... Awake yourself....






 




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In The Absolute Sound Issue 317Jonathan Valin wrote a book review. On page 25 he recalled experiencing Magnaplanar I-U loudspeakers with Audio Research amplification. The year was 1973-1974. He said the system sounded just like the grand piano in the same room. I had a similar experience at the University of Missouri in the living room of a Physicist there in the same time frame. I suppose having a system sound like a grand piano in the same room does not mean the system is perfect in all ways, but that memory stuck with me as well. My Magnepan 1.7i speakers sometimes sound real on rare recordings but cannot compare with that memory. They also needed two subwoofers to be acceptable. Frank