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Vinyl guy seeking recommendation for a top level cd player

I know cds are dead.  Best time to buy a cd player, the way it looks.  I want an all in one box.  I don't stream so a separate DAC is not required.  Most of my cd collection have been ripped to a PC as Flac files and then down loaded to a Sony HAP-Z1ES.  Currently about 3000 Redbook and perhaps 100 SACDs.  The way cds are being dumped I figure on becoming a buyer again so these numbers will go up.  I have looked at Marantz SA10, Esoteric K1 (lightly used), and Luxman D-10X, so far.  It would be good if the sound could approach vinyl.  The Z1 does up to a point.  Listening this morning to the same recordings, the Z1 compares to a high end MM cartridge, but not to a SoundSmith Experion.  Maybe I am asking too much, but in any event a new cd player is being sought.  Thanks in advance for any advice.
Bill
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earlflynn
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Simaudio 260D with DAC.
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russ69
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"...You misinterpreted my post. A Laser can go out AT ANY TIME..."

I did, I noticed it after I posted and re-read your post. Yes lasers can die abruptly and/or time out.  
bradluke0
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Congrats on you purchase of the Luxman. It was on my short list but I wound up with an Ayon. Both are great players. 
jymc
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You can always identify a diehard high-end vinyl guy. Their ears are conditioned to a lifetime of listening to the best of what vinyl has to offer. Therefore, even the most pristine and capable digital playback will NEVER be acceptable to their highly conditioned ears and brain processing of analog audio.

This is not a dig at vinyl proponents, but rather, an honest assessment of their conditioned listening history. Digital presents audio with significantly higher dynamic range and more discernible mechanical detail than vinyl.  Furthermore, digital foregoes the inherent analog reproduction problems, which nonetheless have come to be identified by vinyl proponents as "the warmness of vinyl".  With subjective semantics at play, such "warmness" is the vinyl lover's way of suggesting the unobscured detail of digital equals harshness, edginess, etc etc.

BOTTOM LINE HERE:  This is not an argument to be won by either the analog nor digital side.  Listening history burns a blueprint into our brains of what music of any genre is supposed to sound like. This is true for both digital and analog proponents. If one owns 2,000 vinyl albums that they’ve been listening to for 40 years, there is likely no high quality digital presentation that will ever match and fulfill the audio expectations of such a listener, following 40 years of exposure to vinyl. Any variations in audio presentation will not sound right. And the same reasoning applies to a digital proponent attempting to adjust/listen to vinyl.  

ghdprentice
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Well, I am sure your theory fits a few people. 

I happen to own a very high end vinyl rig and have 2,000 pristine and audiophile pressing albums that I have collected over a lifetime. My digital / streaming end sounds as good and sometimes better. With the same warmth and musicality. It depends on the components you own and in some cases... your personality if they conform to your theory. 

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