Why is science just a starting point and not an end point?


Measurements are useful to verify specifications and identify any underlying issues that might be a concern. Test tones are used to show how equipment performs below audible levels but how music performs at listening levels is the deciding criteria. In that regard science fails miserably.

Why is it so?
pedroeb
Show me exactly what audio thing you "hear at home" that a "naysayer" may criticize, that you think is somehow validated by SCIENCE.
Ionizer...

Shumann generators...

Shungite plate+copper....

These three are not validated official text book science facts for use in audio...

Only results of other people experience or for the last one my own creation and experiment only....They work for me and for many people...

Then, are we crooks?



You are like the pope invoking theology....

And promising to inquistion psychics and astrologers....(it is very easy to point to some validated efficient psychic in history by the way among the crooks, for astrology you dont have a clue anyway)

A simple listening experiment of my own is not an official scientific fact for sure but it can work without your papal signature or permission...

You are a crusader not a scientist....

You are in the same boat that those believers who negate science...The only difference is the color of your shirt compared to them....Go on warring against audiophile, putting all of them in the same bag for the sake of your dogmatic conception of science....

Go on with your congealed opinions and dogmas....

I prefer simple very simple scientific fact , and experiments that cost nothing...

After all no audio book or scientific forum never teach me about my shungite use in audio.... Is this a proof that i am an idiot or a crook?
No it is a proof that i am creative and only crusaders believe with a pair blinders....I am not a believer even in science.... Science is there for teaching us to do more than believing ....And science is there to be used but NEVER to be believed...You can use Newton laws but you dont have to believe them to be ultimate gospel.... They are not....

By the way all audiophiles here are different of one another, labelling them is not rational....

All alleged scientists here are also different, labelling all of them with the qualification of "voice of science" is irrational...

Science facts are there to be used or negated or modified and experimented with..... A decree against audiophiles or psychic is James Randi science.... a show.....
Prof-
The green marker actually does improve the sound reproduction of a CD. Costs very little, give it a try for yourself sometime. 

Dow Jones-
NPS-1260 "Goop" improves conductivity to a level that there is an audible difference. Although expensive it's worth trying.  
mahgister, FYI:   I have come to ignore your replies, based on past experience, and seeing you produce more of the same. Don’t let that stop you though ;-)


boxer12
Note the theme of this thread.

I can find similar testimonies for people "improving their health" by "grounding themselves magnetically to the earth" with their bare feet.And for the healing power of magnetic bracelets. And for faith healers, and prayer and even phone psychics.

That’s where most subjective anecdotes stand. Do you have anything more robust?


mahgister, FYI: I have come to ignore your replies, based on past experience, and seeing you produce more of the same. Don’t let that stop you though ;-)



Even if English is not my first language you cannot win a debate with me because you are irrational ... You are a philosophical simplistic mind.... You attack people easily....You dismiss anything which is not in your book....

You are a crusader in an audio forum face it....

People are here to exhange ideas about their audio system and experiments not to be given lesson about blind test....

I can find similar testimonies for people "improving their health" by "grounding themselves magnetically to the earth" with their bare feet.And for the healing power of magnetic bracelets. And for faith healers, and prayer and even phone psychics.
This is one expression of your strategy and bad faith dear crusader, putting all phenomenon which you dont approve in the same bag.... And you pretend that it is "science"...

You are pathetic my friend....


And by the way for the usefulness of walking barefoot some doctors think that this is good....For sure they will be put by you in the same bag with me and astrologers and all these deluded audiophiles...

https://www.mindbodygreen.com/0-9099/the-surprising-health-benefits-of-going-barefoot.html

It takes one second to look for a positive reason to walk barefoot by a doctor on the net.... Then for your next post keep psychics, astrologers and audiophiles in the bag but exclude this doctor.... Because it dont take a big brain work to know that some barefoot walking can only be good for the health....

This negative decree from you about barefoot walking illustrate well your crusader mentality....

You are a believer not a scientist....You adopt science like other adopt astrologers....I prefer experimenting and not judging others....

I suggest to you barefoot walking because this improve rational thinking by paradoxically putting emphasis in the brain on more sense data coming from the feet....This will relax your crusader mentality....


And before you dismiss this barefoot doctor from you science list.... Read this truly scientific paper about the very usefulness of a study about barefoot walking.....

https://jfootankleres.biomedcentral.com/track/pdf/10.1186/s13047-016-0166-1.pdf