Lay Off the Newbies!


I always try to keep my posts constructive, but there is something that regularly goes on here that I think is detrimental to our hobby - A newbie has a simple question and a bunch of neurotic geezers (of which I include myself) jump on the guy with a million rules and rituals he must follow to achieve his goal, which ends up discouraging the guy right out of hobby. There was one analog thread on static where I recommended Gruv Glide and you geezers started in with so much BS- humidifiers, move to another climate, expensive gimmicks, etc, that GG would kill him and his records.  The end result? By the end of the thread, he sold his analog rig because he couldn't deal with the stress.  In a recent digital thread, you guys are recommending a newbie buy 20 year old transports.  All this does is just make newbies so stressed out that you'll drive them to MP3s.  Newbies need simple answers, commensurate with their experience level.  Buy a Rega table, screw in a Rega cartridge and play records.  They have plenty of time to turn into us.  Somehow we survived, listening to our Sansui receivers and JBL L-100s in bedrooms thick with pot smoke and spilled Boone's Farm.  And we made it.  Sometimes I'm amazed as well.  Let the young have fun while they can. Be well.  
chayro
@td_dayton:

"... at some point the "wah they're being too rude. what happened to Civility??"crowd has to get over themselves..."

"Sometimes replies can betray insecurities revealing an unexamined life".

@stuartk i agree with that, which is why it really doesn't matter what a jerk says - often they're just at war with themselves and take it out on someone they think they're better than. if a few rude comments puts someone off from pursuing a new hobby, they weren't that invested to begin with. in life you meet rude people all the time, and if you can't simply shrug and move on then you're gonna have a rough time. don't see why a stereo forum is any different 
anyway i am in full agreement with the OP re: older guys acting like a $4000 cleaning system or $2000 isolation accessories are the Only Way to really do it right 
OP you can see I like to cut up (maybe to much), but in all honesty, when a new person ask a question the quality of the question usually determines the quality of the answer.

YOU seem sincere in your effort to make them feel at home, maybe consult with the AG staff and see if you can head up a new topic on the forum to accommodate, "New Comers" "New Guest" "Newbies" "The First Stop".

Maybe a little introduction to the behavior that will be tolerated by all, what won’t be tolerated by ANY and the difference between the two.

There are no rules chiseled in stone, BUT a few.

No "NASTY" name callin’.
Be respectful.
Curve the political rants. Red, Blue, Neither or ALL. (curve NOT Stop) Its ok to fly your colors, just not in my face.
Do unto others as you would have THEM do unto you.

BUT above all, contribute to the forum in a constructive way. Enjoy yourself. Be aware sometime it takes a little intervention on the Staffs part, sometimes on the members part, and sometimes on the EVERYONES part including the "The New Person". Nothing wrong with standing up for yourself in the shadow of a BULLY.

"I’ll be your Huckleberry" against that mean ol "Johnny Ringo"

BUT that is NOT the natures of most AD regulars. Good honest folks..

WELCOME has always been the AG way..

Unfortunately there are SOME that will even take offence to being called a "Newbie". I mean after all they have been turning knobs like the rest of us their whole lives, too..

With great respect and regards to ALL, New or Not..
Four years ago an indivdual new to audio would have been given good advice on building a great system within the newbie’s budget, whether two channel or home theater.  Now there are "expert" habitual posters that makes this not so much the case.

A newbie may not have enough experience to be able to weed out bad advice that is not relevant in the context of their system.