Subs And The Downstairs Neighbors


I live in a brownstone in Fort Greene, Brooklyn. The building has the usual suspended hardwood floors but there must be magic insulation because I can listen at 90-plus decibels and remain quite friendly with the couple downstairs. Nor do I hear anything from upstairs.

I have an Arcam A19 and a pair of LS50s. The system sounds great but one wouldn’t call it chest-thumping. So I’m thinking about a subwoofer.

In traditional New York style, my apartment is both small and expensive. So I’m looking for a cheap, low profile, downfiring sub that will fit under the couch. Monoprice? I’d rather get something used but the only other low profile model I can find is a $1200 Focal.

The secondary question is whether I’ll be defiling the sound of the LS50s by using a cheap sub. I haven’t heard the Monoprice but it’s probably doesn’t sound REL-like. Supposedly it reaches 30 db. Is that low enough? The sound doesn’t have to be great, it just has to be better than it is now.

The primary question is whether the sound will break into the downstairs apartment. Just a gut reaction but it seems like I’d be asking for trouble.

There’s an similar thread from 2008. The poster only got two responses from people with actual experience. One nearly got evicted, the other had two subs and reports that all went well. I thought I would check to see if anyone in a similar position has joined since then. Anyone?
paul6001
Thanks to all those who tried to answer an impossible question. A few reactions:

-The new KEF mini-sub is the answer to all my problems. But $1600? I just don’t have it. Same issue with the larger KEFs.

-I’m sure the sub dude is a good product but if it can’t go under the couch, it’s just not going to work. 

-Theater Solutions Sub 8 must be the Monoprice model with a different name tag. That’s what kicked off this post in the first place. And it’s still a possibility. I’d get it from Amazon and be able to return it if there’s a problem. 

Have you heard it? How is the sound?

-Rocray: Right? And I mean listening in the mid-90s, peaks over 100.

The husband and wife downstairs are both computer engineers and both are working from home. She first bought up the noise subject by apologizing for their newborn, who she said cries all the time. I told her that I’ve never heard a thing—true—and that if anyone should be apologizing, it’s me. She also said that she’s never heard a thing.

In the stairwell, you can hear the sound clear as a bell, both up and down. If the windows are open, you can hear it on the street.

My landlord, who is a contractor, bought a building that was crumbling into the street and rebuilt himself, brick by brick. I’m sure that he’s done very well on his investment, as this four story brownstone is probably worth close to $2MM. Whatever he put under the floors must be magic. I’d ask him but I don’t want want to even bring up the subject, don’t want to go anywhere near it.

Living in the city means all kinds of trade-offs. I guess chest-thumping bass is one of them.

a pair self-powered, front firing: two 8", locate with the pair of mains.

Rockville’s are inexpensive, you can upgrade later

https://www.rockvilleaudio.com/rock-shaker-8-wood/

I just bought a Rockville single 12" for my office, blends with my bookshelf speakers very well.

IF you can’t set them up to give bass directionality with the mains, a single, perhaps this 12" Klipsch

https://www.ebay.com/itm/254917585179?epid=7037012869&_trkparms=ispr%3D1&hash=item3b5a45a91b...

if properly balanced at normal listening levels, at low volumes, you will need to boost ANY bass due to properties of our hearing, so don’t think 8" is too small, just boost the bass as per fletcher-munson curve

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equal-loudness_contour

this has auto correction when you listen at low-levels, and gives you remote volume, remote balance, I wouldn’t want to be without one

https://www.ebay.com/itm/274870895426?hash=item3fff950342:g:iiEAAOSw0tJg8tiE


Subwoofers are all about placement. I have 4 SB-1000’s in the living room which is open to the dinning room. 130db in the living room 70db in the dining, it’s a dead spot. The kids room shares the front wall of the main speakers and is about 120db.
I would get an sub with dsp and play with placement and different heights.