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Tube Preamp - What to buy?

Looking to take my first venture into the tube world and going with a tube preamp.  My budget is up to $2500 and willing to buy used or new however realize with my budget that used is probably a better path. I would like to have a built-in MM phone stage.  I am use to having a remote and tone controls, so that would be nice however not a necessity.  

For further information my speakers are Revel Performa3 F206 and the current amp(s) is Conrad Johnson SA-250 and I also have a Rotel RB1552.  I many be looking for an amp upgrade in the future, but one thing at a time. 

So far I have been looking at used Audio Research and Conrad Johnson preamps but very open to opinions on brand and model.  Thanks and I look forward to your opinions and experiences.  
speter04
valero2
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I’ve been using an Audible Illusions M3a with the regular phono stage and the CJ Sonographe SA 250 amp the OP mentions he has for a couple of years now and very happy with the performance. With Kef R3’s. I also have a Motif C9 linestage pre either with a Primare or McCormack phono stage that I play with from time to time using the Sonographe. All combos have been satisfying to me. The downside to the Audible Illusions is it’s quirks. Dual volumes, high gain, maybe issues with repair from factory etc…. but it sounds wonderful to me. There’s lots of tube pre choices out there, but I’d suggest any CJ pre would be a nice match with the Sonographe. I’ve had the Sonographe now for probably 25 years and it’s been completely reliable. 
lukaske
307 posts
 
Ear 912 ( by Tim de Paravicini ) ; Metronome Technologie C6 !
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iseland
139 posts
 
Save up some more money and get ear 912 .. the only preamp you need . With a phonostage that is superb. 
And it looks good too !


jpsreno
77 posts
 
in that price range and with the ultimate goal of switching out your power amps   I would agree with several above get an integrated.   I have a Vincent integrated in  my bedroom system and the tube pre with  SS power really has a nice sound.  I know they are currently switching out models, offering deals on their midtier  right at your budget point.  or better yet wait for a sale and stretch the budget a little for a Cary 100 or talk to Klaus at Odessey in Indy and get something more bespoke.
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russbutton
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The Don Sachs line stage preamp ($2500) is just the VTA SP-14 dressed up in a pretty case.  The SP-14 can be bought as a kjt ($1200) or fully assembled and tested ($1800).   The top line PH-16 phono preamp kit ($700) can also be had fully assembled and tested ($1000).  

The VTA products are very plain Jane and have a bit of a home brew look to them, which is why Don Sachs can charge you $1000 or so more for the good looks.  But what do you want to spend your money on?

On the other hand, a recommendation I'd also throw at you would be to find a fully restored...  are you ready...  Fisher 400 CX-2 (The President) preamp.  Easily the equal of a Mac C22 or Marantz 7, and they're gorgeous.  Typically around $3000.
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