What Integrated Amp do You use

jjss49- the description of the sound on that Devialet came from a professional reviewer, and there’s more similar.  I’ve found none that say that about the M 33, in fact a couple I read said the same as I did, best one box solution on the market.  Stereophile product of the year for amplification 2020, I’ve not read one negative review regarding its sound or feature set.  YOU may not of liked it’s uncolored, powerful (2 ohm stable) and distortion free sound, but many more do.  Even to my old  ears it sounds great, but I certainly trust the pro’s way more.  You’re certainly entitled to your opinion of the sound using your own pre-amp, but the “frills” (most call them features) are absolutely to be considered, as I was talking one box solution.  One reviewer called it “revolutionary,” another, “game-changer.”  But hey, what do they know, they’re just “shills,” right…

someday i'd like to try the sugden a21 se, the belles aria, and the croft integrateds. i'm also interested in the moonriver that looks like a sansui i once loved, and then lost...

i'm digging this thread a lot, lots of stuff in here i've never heard of and i'm having fun googling it all.

as far as the m33 it looks like exactly the type of thing i'd buy for some of my "love music, don't care about equipment" friends if i had that kind of cash. like i said..maybe someday...

I've been using a GATO AMP-150 for several months (it replaced a Hegel h160). A very nice, transparent amplifier.

Even to my old  ears it sounds great, but I certainly trust the pro’s way more.

 One reviewer called it “revolutionary,” another, “game-changer.” But hey, what do they know, they’re just “shills,” right…

i rest my case... 🥱🥱🥱

Integrated: for me, remote volume, mute, and I wish it had remote balance from my listening spot.

You are so right!!!!! 2 points to your house.


I’ve been doing design on an integrated with full remote for (a long time, going on 2 1/2 years but i digress...) and while i find all the remote features addictive and near impossible to give up, the ability to tune the balance - and therefore the off-center image jumped out at me as both convenience and critical sonically. In my downstairs (aka open living area, not reference) system there is no sweet seat. All listening positions are compromised but its a great gathering area and I read and listen a lot. Flopped in an easy chair. Significantly off center. The ability to go "click click click, that’s it!) is pretty great.

The problem is that so many solutions compromise sound - and the venerable conductive POT is well among those (think about what’s happening with a carbon strip or plastic with graphite/carbon impregnated, and a wiper - its not pretty). "digital" volume as done in Linux, MacOS/iOS, Sonos, and Windoze is maybe worse, with bit depths plummeting to ~ 11 with heavy attenuation (yep, do the math).

While the prototypes are for testing and then evaluation by "people who matter" (e.g.; not for me), I’m on withdrawal so building units for me.....PITA but worth it)
I’m amazed at the units that cost $10k and up that have no balance. I understand why (cost, complexity, power - i faced them all) but one just has to bite the bullet and do it right.

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