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To Stream or not to Stream

[A collective sign resonates from forum members upon seeing "Stream" in the title]  ...Before you run away, I read a number of threads dealing with streaming, so this is to ask about what I didn't learn.

I am trying to select a streaming option into my McIntosh DA2 DAC. I would like to stay south of $4k and get the best bang for my buck. It would be best if I could sit in the comfort of my chair with my MacBook, iPhone or iPad and control my music. I do not need a fancy screen on the component. They are nice, but I only care about the sound.

To make a decision / purchase I hope to get answers to the following:

  1. I have a CD collection, but none are HD. Why do people rip CDs when all of those CDs can be streamed from music services? I have Tidal and want to drop it for Qobuz. Learning more about the burning CD topic will help narrow down if should go with a ripper / streamer combo. 
  2. I can't find much on my DA2 DAC but assume it's top notch being from McIntosh? Consensus? How do I know if I should use it versus another streamer option with its own DAC?
  3. It appears that a USB connection is needed for DSD512 (basically the most demanding formats)? I can't find much on this but many of the recommended streamers on this site do not always have USB-out, which is confusing at some of the high price points!?
  4. Is DSD only achieved from ripping CDs?
  5. What are people doing to stream DSD512 or other formats of this quality? 
  6. I haven't seen anyone recommend the Roon Nucleus? If I'm not going to rip CDs, is it one to add to my consideration list?

This would be easy if I had money... Aurender ACS10 if I want to rip or N20, up. Others as well at these price points.

I see used N100s here... maybe that's my answer unless I want to rip. The Innuos is intriguing, but you have to buy a separate power supply... I just want to get this right the first time and be happy. I'm already gun-shy of making another purchase mistake like the new Bluesound Node 2i I need to sell... It's only a mistake because it does not do USB-out (as of this post) or support the formats I wish to stream to my DA2. Not a fan of its software either. 

Thank you!


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tomic601
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seriously, the DAC is more important than the streamer….but you also need a streamer company with longevity and a history of well executed software updates…

This is where IMO a solid relationship with supporting dealer is essential….

Have fun. The reality is there is so much quality gear out there and in a constant state of flux / improvement that the LaGrange point optimal solution you seek…does not exist…

i like Pistachio Almond, full disclosure..
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lalitk
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@izjjzi,

Perhaps the only way to settle your quandary is side by side audition of ACS100 and N100 or N200. I very much doubt you’ll will be able to tell the difference :-)

All of the aurender streamers are built to very high standards. Honestly, you don’t get to appreciate nuances until you step into N20, N30SA or W20SE arena. 
david_ten
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1. What’s the point of ripping your CDs if you haven’t listened to them?

especially if I want to rip the 200 or so CDs I haven’t used since the 90’s.

2. What’s the point of ripping those CDs if they are available through the streaming service you use?

3. What’s the point of adding component complexity and cost from a feature set you (likely) don’t need?

4. What’s the point of adding unneeded requirements to a checklist you are already overwhelmed with?
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izjjzi OP
102 posts
 
Paralyzed again... there are SO many flavors! I could be in this line forever! ...honestly, you had me at "ice cream". Heath bar crunch all day!

Just spent the last hour reading reviews, specs and watching videos [drum roll] I'm seriously considering the HiFi Rose RS150. The DAC seems impressive, which will allow me to AB vs the DA2. Talk about features, upgradability, build... and I can attach an external drive and rip my CDs. I know it's just north of my range, but the features! lol  You can toggle all inputs / outputs on or off so your actual connections are more isolated. Don't know if it really translates, but wow, seriously thoughtful engineering. I can't not see this thing pushing the current envelope. Anyone own this kit?
middlemass
912 posts
 
Paralysis by analysis. We've all been there. Try to take a deep breath and simplify. If that's possible.
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