@tomic601 - was just listening to an old Jackie Mason routine on jews and gentiles-- hilarious. As a member of the tribe, we typically had no mechanical or other manual labor type skills- we'd call a guy. Now that I'm in the post-career phase of my life, I'm learning stuff about HVAC, plumbing and electrical around the house, but I always think about that Jackie Mason routine. He was a very funny guy-self-effacing, and got laughs by mocking his own.