Boy, Oh Boy! Towshend!


OK, I have elevated my belief in isolation.  For the first time I feel I have entered the Hi Fidelity zone.  About 3 weeks ago I purchased the Townshend Speaker Bars.  My muddy bass cleaned up, I have better imaging, clarity, precision, speed and focus.  My buddy who is not not into HiFi but has followed my adventures, was blown away.  He said, "OK, now I get why you do this."  Best money spent! 

Denon DL160 (re-tipped by Soundsmith) > Thorens TD150 > McIntosh 8900 > ALK Extreme Slope in Klipsch Belles.  Just another step in the long journey, but a Giant Step for my enjoyment.  My system took a large enough step forward that I am drawn into listening to all of my 2K plus albums again just to enjoy them in a new way. Great people to deal with too, even with Brexit messing things up.  Highly recommended!
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Well boys I've joined the club!

Just ordered some Townshend Isolation Bars for my speakers.

I'll be using them with my Thiel 2.7 and Joseph Audio Perspective speakers.

The Thiels have a wider body and are very stable, but I am wondering how I'll go about using them with the Joseph speakers, which are a very narrow body design and require the supplied outriggers so they aren't easily tipped over.  I don't know if I'll keep the Josephs on the outriggers while on the bars, or whether there is some prevision in the design of the bars to hold narrow speakers steady?
The thing to keep in mind is that while the speakers appear unstable because they rock easily, this appearance is totally deceptive. They will move easily only a few degrees. Then the springs compress or bottom out enough to stop further tilting. At this point the speaker is no more or less stable than otherwise.

You can prove this to yourself. When setting them up on the Podium first take one and tilt it to the balance point. Then repeat this same balance point test on the Podium. You will find the exact same angle.

I did this myself, "walking" my Moabs onto the Podiums. The angle they have to be tilted in order to fall over is so much greater than what the Podium allows this is a total non-starter.

But, it helps to know this. Mike Lavigne didn’t, and you shoulda seen his reaction when he put his hand on the side of my Moab to feel for cabinet resonance! Expecting rock solid it moved so easily he was startled and tried to stop it falling over. The crowd roared with laughter. I missed it, sad to say. But Rick and the others sure had a good laugh. So no worries.

Thanks millercarbon.  I'm familiar with what you are talking about, having experimented with the other spring footers.   I know the Townshend are stiffer, but the Thiels were stable enough even sitting directly atop those springs.

The Joseph speakers are an entirely different issue though.  I would not trust them normally without the outriggers, as they could easily be tipped over.  Unless there is something in the speaker bars that secures them, it seems very dicey to add even a bit more tippy quality, without the outriggers to help. 
Hey @prof - that's why I had the platforms built about 2" longer and wider than the thin base of my KEF's. Aside from all the other reasons I mentioned, I was too nervous they's tilt over and I wasn't comfortable putting spikes/disks on top of a Townshend floating platform.

Nothing is perfect, but the Symposium Segues can be cut to fit at no extra charge, and should be a nice improvement. Tell Peter your floor type, speaker and environment and he will be honest with you about a recommendation and what to expect.

sokogear,

I'm getting the Townshend product, not the Symposium, so I'm not in conversation with Peter.

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