Critical listening and altered states


Ok, this is not a question about relaxing, but about listening to evaluate how the system (or a piece of gear is sounding).

What, in your experience, are the pluses and minuses of altering your state of mind for listening? This can include anything you've used to affect your everyday state of mind, from coffee, beer, scotch, tobacco, to much stronger — and psychoactive, dissociative — additives.

What do you gain by altering your consciousness in terms of what you notice, attend to, linger on, etc?
What causes more details to emerge?
What allows you to stick with a thread or, alternately, make new connections?

Or perhaps you like to keep all those things *out* of your listening; if that's you, please say a bit about why.

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@ianb52
Good point about the "paradox that with certain altered states the detail of perception and emotional intensity are increased, but the ability to do focused critical listening (left brain-type activity) becomes difficult and not fun"

I suppose my question is not whether critical listening should be done all the time but if an instance or two of listening done in these states might break one’s ruts and open up a new insight. That insight could be carried into a critical listening session without any altered state. We do this with books all the time -- read, immerse, get an insight, then carry it forward and apply it once the book is closed.

You convey this scenario really well in your reminiscence about how tripping "produced musical experiences that I had never even conceived and permanently altered the way I hear things."

It might also be the case that the "paradox" you mention could be sidestepped by micro-dosing.

@daj
"Show me a person with a fearful, negative attitude toward the use of mind altering substances and the exploration they make possible, and I will show you someone who is most likely locked into the consensual dream state of life as the character they learned to be. There is nothing beyond these confines for them. Bless their hearts."

Zing! And then you quote William James! One of America’s greatest, most creative, most open-minded, geniuses. To read James is to expand consciousness itself. Well done!

It was not my intention to create a referendum on drug use, casual or habitual. Obviously, for many on this forum, it’s a trigger. My OP asks a very specific question about audiophile listening and the fine-tuning of a system with critical listening supplemented -- or not -- with altered states. The fact that *this* question has been taken as a tee-up of a different question ("Are drugs good or not" or some other general question) is, um, a sociological result I wasn’t expecting. But noted, nonetheless!
When cannabis, which has been a medicine ever since it has been on the planet, is finally "discovered" to be beneficial in may ways, as well as psychoactive components in mushrooms and other "plants" on the planet, I suppose all the drunks among the population will begin arguing for THEIR "drug of choice."

This nation is steeped in ignorance and denial about so many items today.  I am sure those who decry cures that are not yet "approved" will rail against whatever "discoveries" are made in the future. 

After all, in today's world of the perpetually apoplectic, another "healthy" cigarette (4 out of 5 DOCTORS recommend KENT with the micronite filter!!) and a couple shots of straight 100-year-old scotch or whatever, peace will be found in THEIR drugs of choice and people using "newfangled" medical discoveries will be considered the fools.

Kinda reminds me of vaccines, but we digress...
 
Excuse me OP I get a little wound up about Vice.. What can I say.. I try to keep it in check.. and I have for 40 years..
Drugs, gamblin’, sex, traveling, anything that is a problem in someone else’s life, is a problem in everyone’s life.. EXCEPT the person in denial..
Like I said that 50% of the people..

Choosing to help the world is still a choice, no one was drafted.. Then bellyache about the choice. PTSD.. I got PTSD from SFPD, how’s that. LOL

I think I’ll get altered.. "TILT" puff puff pass. Play on Carlos, play on..
Got to change your Evil ways’

Hat on the floor as I slowly walk around to the beat of the music and my faithful dog follows me. I stop.. I slowly back around the hat.. Olay Amigo.. I like salsa.. I'm an American Irishman and Sioux go figure..

TGIF
My audio journey was launched sober, but really took off on pot. There was a barrier to listening vs. being “convinced” that pot seemed to help remove. I no longer partake, and my tinnitus prevents me from trusting my judgement on what sounds best, but I can fairly say my best years as an audiophile were spent high.
And nitrous oxide? There’s a barrier buster!
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