On ''what there is''


The question looks ''philosophical'' in the sense of ''what exist?''. In the old terminology ''ontology question''.
The modern formulation (by Quine) is: ''what are the values of your variables''? In our hobby ''what are
the new available components''?  Can one person know what are available components? Obviously not
but we have ''collective knowledge''. Each contribution is welcome. Like in science. But like in science there
are individuals with special contributions. Raul with his MM contributions and his ''successor'' chakster
with his contributions about ''both kinds'': MC's and MM's. Despite his ''modest means''. I think we should
be thankful to have such individuals.
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holmz234 posts10-16-2021 7:10pm
But these books exist only in french it is the catch....😁😊

^Thank God I don’t speak French.^

This thread is reminding me of the documentary I watched on psychedelic mushroom. (I want to watch all Docos while on mushrooms now.) ;)
Great post and good observation... thanks... 😊

Precisely what enlarge the scope of our attention reveal itself often like a "mushroom" revelation or a religious one precisely...

If you feel that impression not knowing where you are anymore, you are "stoned" indeed reading this thread, it is because your brain work now at higher speed...

You now know how man create languages, religions, sciences... the three main symbolic forms.... In a state of tremendous ectasy...


In the process of creating my own room acoustic i lived through this "mushroom" or ectasy state listening music through my listenings experiments....

My deepest respect and salutation....




« If all is a miraculous revelation in this room, where is the place of my wife please? »-Groucho Marx 🤓
Great post and good observation... thanks...

Precisely what enlarge the scope of our attention reveal itself often like a "mushroom" revelation or a religious one precisely...

If you feel that impression not knowing where you are anymore, you are "stoned" indeed reading this thread, it is because your brain work now at higher speed...

You now know how man create languages, religions, sciences... the three main symbolic forms.... In a state of tremendous ectasy...


My deepest respect and salutation....

I was being sarcastic as usual.
But I suspect that the thread probably makes more sense on pyschadelics, as it makes also most no sense to me.
And I keep misreading Nandiric as Tantric, so it all is getting to spiritual for this simpleton.
’The logic’’ of reactions to my thread. I started this thread
with a kind of introduction to ’’what there is’’ in general and
limited the extension to ’’what analog component there are’’
in particular cartridges. I even named Raul and chakster
as example of worthwhile contributors. But there was not
one single reaction about ’’what cartridges there are’’ but
the most were critical remarks about my philosophical
’’content’’. However my reactions were only reactions to
reaction of the members. Who then should be blamed?
You are totally right...

I apologize...

It is me only who could be blamed for the greatest part...I love philosophy more than cartridge alas!

I dont own a turntable ....

i am retired and reading the name Quine and Frege about cartridges i could not resist.....I will mute myself....

But why speaking about Quine and Frege in a cartridge thread? Is it not a bit "haughty" ? I cannot reproach it to you because i could be like that myself... 😁

Did you not wait for some reaction for this improbable association and somewhat kind of provocation?



My deepest respects.....
snilf, yes, the sensation is a personal experience but I'm not talking about that. The damage the fire will cause to your hand will be the same regardless of who it is that is sticking their hand in the fire and regardless of what they feel. Protein starts denaturing at 106 degrees F. I find it interesting that it also does not matter what animal you stick in the fire the response will be the same. Do dogs feel the same pain we do? What about caterpillars? Same response. Pain is a very ancient sensation and virtually universal for good reason. Animals that had an aversion to destructive, life challenging forces out survived those that did not. If pain did not hurt we would all be dead by the age of 18.   

It is very much like what people think they hear. That is a personal experience that has been programmed by a variety of influences.  I can tell you what I hear in descriptive terms but will you hear the same thing?
I will argue that you will not as it is very unlikely both of us will be listening to the same aspect of any given performance at exactly the same time. Even if a solo instrument is playing you might single out the bass while I single out the treble. Does it really matter? I will tell you from experience that if you put us all blind folded in a room with a fabulous system every single one of us would agree that it was an excellent system.