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3way replacement for my 2way

I’m thinking of replacing my Triangle Comete EZ Bookshelf speakers with some 3 way speakers and seriously considering purchasing either 2nd hand or new.

My Triangles are good about 85% of the time, they’re somewhat forward, not very forgiving and lack that warm feeling of a 3 way.

My Triangles currently are on the company’s accompanying stands about 24” from the back wall and about 20” from the side walls and towed in projecting to my couch’s center. My room is 12’x 11’ w/ a 10’ ceiling, in addition the room has a tray in the center giving the center an additional 1’ of height. The floor is carpeted, no furniture other than a couch against one wall facing the equipment and record storage racks on the other wall, one window on the side wall is treated with thick room darkening curtains, basically the room sounds pretty good.  

I’m running a Carver Crimson 275 Amp that’s hooked up to a Parasound ZPre3 Preamp. I mostly listen to vinyl on my Orbit U-Turn TurnTable equipped w/ a Ortofon Super OM20 Cartridge stylus that’s hooked up to an IFi Zen Phono Preamp. 

I get that it’s a “Mid-Fi” set up but it lacks some warmth that I feel is a result of my 2 way’s extreme forward output. 

Like I mentioned prior, my Triangles sound great at times, they just always have that in your face high going on, sometimes more than others. 

I’m looking for 3way speaker recommendations in the $2k - $3k Ballpark that have a nice balance of Highs, Mids & Bass. 

I know there’s some really great speakers out there and not to sound obnoxious, but please don’t recommend some great pair of used speakers that even if I spent six months full time searching the internet I won’t be able to locate. 

Not into Klipsch,No B&W’s or Polks. My music tastes are Blues,Jazz, Big Band, Reggae & Classic Rock if that helps. 

I’d love to hear your thoughts.


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elliottbnewcombjr
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I hope you do well with your choice.

Regarding the KLH 5 three position optional attenuation, it is not a gimmick, and purposed for your type of problem, i,e, the last sentence:

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In addition to upgrading its drivers, Geist overhauled the M5’s crossover, a 13-component network that uses iron-core inductors and Mylar capacitors. "The crossover is all 2nd order, 12dB/octave," Geist explained. "The low-pass woofer and high-pass midrange cross over at about 380Hz, low-pass midrange and high-pass tweeter at 2850Hz. The crossover is comprised of four inductors, four capacitors, [and] five resistors. Three of the resistors are used in the attenuation circuit for the switch located on the back panel."

Taking different-sized rooms and varying acoustics into consideration, Geist incorporated a three-position attenuator switch (marked "LO, MID, HI") on the M5’s backside (above a pair of gold-plated binding posts), a holdover from the original M5—sort of.

"The switch attenuates/decreases output above 400Hz," Geist explained. "I’m not a huge fan of attenuators on loudspeakers because of the affect they have on voicing of the loudspeaker. So, I repurposed the attenuator switch to deal with difficult room acoustics. The amount of attenuation is relatively small (0, –1.5dB, –3dB), over a broad frequency range. The idea is to pull some excess energy out of an overly bright listening room."

https://www.stereophile.com/content/klh-model-five-loudspeaker

audioconnection
1,271 posts
 
Folks aim higher
Why don't most advanced Top hi end companies seeking low coloration, great resolution,less loss of whats on the recording manufacture a box speaker as a flagship? simple answer they don't. A Box speaker that makes Frank sound like the cows are mooing along with him wont cut it at a higher level . Even a broken clocks right twice a day box speaker can fly under the radar if you avoid playing that tune. Want your stomach to churn? Try playing Ray Brown  soul of the bass or Fairfield Four Standing in the Safety Zone this stuff is awesome when right!  Most advanced speakers are also Hi End expensive. Yet still
 less cabinet ringing designs are more expensive to build then a box.Individual drivers each in their own dedicated enclosures, aligned and optimized gives us a more sophisticated performance and that highly desirable disappearing act. Fortunately companies like Vandersteen make affordable full range designs with great drivers ,dedicated enclosures saving money where it counts by hiding its stealth enclosures grill wrapped over frame allowing them to custom network their unique time coherent crossovers to 1/10th of a DB and still Made in USA. When tilted back set up correctly in my opinion quite easily obsolete the box.*JohnnyR Vandersteen dealer NJ *



https://www.vandersteen.com/products/model-2ce-signature-iii
mozartfan
2,143 posts
 
companies like Vandersteen

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I don't think you understand. There area  select few audiophiles that have completely((well actually Caveat, we employ woofers as bass up to 1600hz and tweets 10khz) but xover low sens speakers as the main act.
We are The WBer fanatics. 
Vandersteens Wislon, Tektons, Dali, Sonus Faber, Tannoy;s, These are others hold no interest for us. 
Its not all fq's we are after, its the quality of the midrange we are seeking. 
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m-db
995 posts
 
If your Comete's are toe'd in aimed at your listening position try placing them ruler flat straight ahead, measure the front inner corner distance and ad approximately one half - two inches to the rear inner corner distance.

Use a wheeled office chair to determine your preference for listening position distance. 

I've been using seven Comete ES in my home theater.
Bob Carver Crimson KT 120 mono's are driving my Avalon Eidolon's.

Good luck with your search.
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flasd OP
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I’ve had the Comete EZ’s for 3 years now, tried every position possible… Just a Very Bright Speaker… Room has good acoustics, I know the room inside out,I’ve done bass crawls, have tried with 3 different AVR receivers (Marantz, Sony ES & Yamaha), & 2 different tube amps, measured levels with my sound meter, etc., and pretty much too forward for my liking.
The speakers are great like I said in my post about 85% of the time…The imagery & sound stage at times can feel like a near religious 3D experience,  but just can’t seem to tame that tweeter, more forward than I like. It’s like there’s no consistency as to when it’s going to be fatiguing or not. 

My only concern at this point is will I miss that forwardness in my new speaker choice? As for now, kinda looking forward to a little warmer of a sound.

Hey if you’re interested, my set is White Gloss in “MINT” Condition with the matching Triangle Stands…have all the original boxes, paperwork, etc., We can talk…
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