Single driver vs traditional 3 way loudspeakers

knotscott212 posts10-20-2021 3:02pmI want incredible transparency so I feel like I’m in the room. I want a vivid convincing sound stage. I want full range, so everything is present. I want dynamics and realistic spatial cues. I want natural delicate overtones that don’t sound like hyped treble pretending to be resolution.

Nothing I know of offers one stop shopping that successfully addresses all of those requirements. There are pros and cons to every philosophy and every choice. Pick your compromise(s)


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Exactly, BINGO

What i am trying to erxpress is the WB configure I have voices music  the way I wanta  speaker to sound. 
Will anyone else agree,, is not important....Perfection?? 
Not sure what that is ina  speaker. Wilsons at $$$$$$ is exactly NOT NOT what I want a speaker to voice. 
That I can assue you, even w/o actually hearinga  Wilson, just looks tells me, not my cup of tea..
btw I just listened to some YT vids on the Zu's, Again, not my cup of tea.
I'm a  hifi/high end WBer.
These davidLouis work just fine as a  ultimate  speaker system. ...and about to get better when I add in the TBW31878,,then the Be/Nd tweeter. 
look out,,, 
Perfect as Scott says above...  perhaps not, But sure draws me in to WANT to hear  my classical selections. 

knotscott212 posts10-20-2021 3:02pmI want incredible transparency so I feel like I’m in the room. I want a vivid convincing sound stage. I want full range, so everything is present. I want dynamics and realistic spatial cues. I want natural delicate overtones that don’t sound like hyped treble pretending to be resolution.

Nothing I know of offers one stop shopping that successfully addresses all of those requirements. There are pros and cons to every philosophy and every choice. Pick your compromise(s).

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2nd post on
Scotts ideas.

As I was listening to Miles Davis Kind of Blue 2nd track,, your post made me ponder and reflect on what you said..
I have to rethink this thing through...
OK so we all want what you describe
soundstage
instrument separation
vocals life like.
bass,
mids
highs
dynamics
realism
etc
’etc

But you know each of us will hear these things with a dif set of criteria/inner judgements.
I base what I hear on my Seas Thors experience past 15 yrs.

This is my reference point.
Now back to what you were saying
Actually whther a speaker has or does ot have these qualities which may be hard to objectify ina real setting, each will hear what he wants hto hear.

What I say is, regardless of these qualites we all hope for.
Its better if we consider qualities we
DO NOT want in a speaker.

I block out bass, and highs.
I only wish to know how the 200hz-1800 hz sound.
Thats it.
If this super critical range has
muddy, goopy, boomy, greyish/taupish, foggy, murky, bloated, heavy, soupy, midrange/upper bass issues.
Here is where a speaker either gets the cigar or does not..
I find no such descripts in my speaker system.
I ran the Seas W18E001’s full range, just to see how they sound,, yuckkk, they are trash w/o a 10uf cap and thus only good under 1600hz. maybe 1800hz. Perhaps the golden 2k.
I think the 10uf takes them to 1600hz.
They sound great.
The Davidlouis 200-1800 hz, have zero muddy low bass mids.
Nothing bloated, boomy, = zero coloration, thus zero fatigue.
Again bass 40hz-100hz, is not my concern. neither are the say 6khz++ range. I have no interest in these fq.s
I can find these excellent drivers that will deliver these fq’s w/o any coloration.
Its that super duper critical 200hz-1500hz that i want right (= perfection) in a speaker
Zero toleration, zero coloration.
My ears are hound dog for just these fq’s in any speaker evalution.

Rant over.

muddy, goopy, boomy, greyish/taupish, foggy, murky, bloated, heavy, soupy, midrange/upper bass issues

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And if you you dont know what these horrible qualites actually sound like in a  speaker, Just go hear any Bo,,,no les not pick on Bose,, thats too easy to  a pick. 
Take any B&W to experience these unwanted distortions.
If your speaker can not beat out a  B&W, time  to look for a  hifi WBer set up. 

Tannoy dual concentric driver...I love mine....

Ditto

bump....