In praise of isolation.


Isolation as in components, not personal.

(although, that’s not necessarily bad either)

There has been much praise, and discussion on the forum with regards to spring isolation.

Well, all this praise, caused me to look into how to approach this for myself.

I like to try things before I pass judgment on an idea.

The whole coupling/decoupling thing has been of interest to me for a while.

I get the desire to couple (yeah, I know,,,) as it plants the gear firmly in the ground, and if the base is heavy enough and made of a material that absorbs vibrations, you should be golden.

Then there is the problem of 7.83hz. Nope, not audible, but that doesn’t matter. Anyone who has used a test record to check for tonearm resonance can see quite clearly how an 8hz frequency can make the tonearm shake like a belly dancers belly.

So, decoupling. Springs made logical sense. Except, there was the problem of vintage turntables with their springy/bouncy top plates/platters. That just didn’t seem right.

I made an isolation platform and put springs underneath it. Figured out the proper spring rate and ordered 4 springs to support the 90lbs sitting above them. 
It’s crazy the clear and obvious difference it made. For the nominal price of $100 for the 4 industrial springs, the sonic improvements were off the charts! When coupling, and making changes to the materials used under the TT, and the types of feet used, there was a difference with the clarity of the highs, their brightness and with the bottom end being muddy or lacking depth.

With the springs however, the whole presentation opened up. Everything sounded better, clearer and more defined. Faster, less shrill and I could go on.

Not only am I divorced, but I’m a firm believer in decoupling.

(see what I did there?)

Damned 7.83hz…
perkri
Love the hockey pucks :)

I made some wooden donuts and put street hockey balls in the holes and placed under my speakers. The weight was sadly too great for the balls, but I wil, be putting some industrial springs under them when I get around to placing another order for springs.

The critical mass pods look very interesting, thanks for that.

And I had considered using extension springs instead of compression springs and hang the platform that way. Damping the bounce was going to be more challenging I figured.
Good for you - I am glad it worked out.  Not everyone is willing or capable of doing the work necessary to figure that stuff out.  Fortunately there are commercial solutions that work well too.  Did you do anything to damp the springs?  If not, you might try encasing them with somewhat loosely shrunk, thin-wall, non-adhesive, heat shrink; or placing a chunk of soft foam inside of each spring.  If you try the heat shrink, use a nail set to put a couple of small holes in the side of the heat shrink to prevent an air lock inside the spring.  See my system page for a pic of the heat shrink casing with holes.
Thanks! 
I had thought about using shrink, and thank you for suggesting poking holes. Had not thought about foam. 
The journey continues…
I used springs also, 8 for each speaker, with one set under the speaker and one set on top of speaker with a heavy load of concrete on top of them (80 pounds fine tuned to near under 100 gram).

The difference of the compression between of the 2 sets is equal to the weight of the speakers...

This dissymetric compressive force decrease the resonance of the speaker...

Springs are more powerful than my "sandwich" multiple plate coupling/ decoupling layered platform : quartz granite plate sorbothane bamboo cork plates...

I use the sandwich under the first pair of spring with succeess to decrease vibration coming from the desk and floor... All my gear is on my big desk...

Springs are the cheapest way and one of the best way to control vibration...





The " sandwich" only under my gear was a great improvement 5 years ago....

There is a great difference though between a set of four springs only under the speaker, compared to no springs and only my "sandwich"...

And a set with a heavy fine tune concrete load on top of the speakers,improve it very much more,

And a greater improvement come after when  i added another set of 4 springs boxes under the load...

This isolation story for me took place in these 4 successive stages....
Perk,
I had a spring epiphany as well. I put 4 Nobsound springs under my integrated tube amplifier and immediately heard some of the things you described. This spurred me to put the same springs under my loudspeakers. I was blown away by the additional transparency, dynamics and the imaging and sound staging improvements. As some described to me, you can get an effect that is similar to a component upgrade or a room treatment.
Larry