Thanks.....
Your post say it all......
Your post say it all......
Seeing sounds and music.....
Seeing music and sounds ...
Listening music and sound organized waves in your room may be translated in perceived geometrical and topological, fractal flowing of animated forms embodied in each microdynamic flowing note....In attentive focus but relax listening...Like a psycho- acoustical imaginary geometry....Like a " cartoon story" in your head....
Music here is no more only melody, rythm, harmonies, but also a potential "story" displayed in visible forms...It is the interface emerging/vanishing imaginary world between a sound and a musical note...
Synesthesia between sound and colors exist but also synesthesia could be between sound and forms...This specific synesthesia is probably more common and could be a great help in fine tuning a room with our ears....
Each series of notes is an history and a " being" with an expressive figure flowing, walking or swimming or flying in pure POTENTIAL meaning...
Pure POTENTIAL meaning being the dynamical interconnectedness of all the musical notes and the forms phenomena appearing to our eyes with it....
The sound not only convey POTENTIAL meaning though, but reflect also the way this meaning is communicated by pure acoustical 3-d incarnations of each sound reflecting itself the acoustical properties of your Speakers/room/ears...
POTENTIAL Meaning experienced is then perceived in a specific acoustical PERSPECTIVE and takes, related to your room geometry, topology, acoustical content, in furnitures and material treatment surfaces, but also experienced in the limits and the controlled way your system/speakers are WED to a room specifically designed for them by possible Helmholtz controls devices in my case or other possible acoustic devices....
Sound could be "seen" and must not be a surface ever, always a 3-d individualized body in space...It is the goal....
Anyway no sound comes from the speakers, save in a bad room... Sound is an expanding and rythmic sphere of living dynamic whose 2 centers are the speakers at one focus and yourself at the other focus....The 2 foci are interpenetrated rythmic beating hearts.... Because what belong to the specific characteristics of your speakers/system and what belong to your ears are coupled together.... This is my experience....
In this breathing ellipse, there, float like mobile islands on a sea, many pressures zones expressing and surging themselves in the encounter between speakers and ears/ room content and form....
This is my experience listening and seeing music....
How others perceive sound and music experience ?
This is why it is important to control in a relative way the acoustic of the room because the POTENTIAL meaning of the sound and music wedding, are often only a surface, or a distorted fraction of the potential acoustic perceived sphere in non controlled and non treated room INSTEAD of being a 3-D BEING....
Acoustic is the sleeping princess and all the pieces of gear are the 7 working dwarves... Be the prince and awake the princess...
I begin this thread for helping people to "IMAGINE" what could be musical/acoustic "ectasy" or "seeing"....
We always listen WITH our system THROUGH the controlled room/speakers the "recreated acoustic translation" of a past lived event which becme an ACTUAL different acoustical event ...
Most people think the opposite:
They think they listen WITH their uncontrolled room/speakers ,THROUGH their system the electronical "reproduction" of a lived PAST event....
Anyway there is no PERFECT FIDELITY between a lived event and a recorded one....The other complementary act of FIDELITY is in the way your speakers/room will translate and recreated some or all the choices which had taken place at the moment of the recorded event.... The recording information which is a surgical 2-d surface extract of the 3-d lived original lived event and the translation and recreation of it in your room in a 3-d Spheroid, is greatly determined by the relation between speakers/ears/room.... On par and sometimes more than by the choice of the gear itself...
Ok i am not a scientist at all....All my post is only " subjective impressions in me" linked to my material acoustical experiments journey...
I try to conveyed here my experience of the last 2 years in words....
You can speak to me about your experience and what you think...
Those whose brain cannot fathom " meaning" and are ideologically deaf could remain silent....
Listening music and sound organized waves in your room may be translated in perceived geometrical and topological, fractal flowing of animated forms embodied in each microdynamic flowing note....In attentive focus but relax listening...Like a psycho- acoustical imaginary geometry....Like a " cartoon story" in your head....
Music here is no more only melody, rythm, harmonies, but also a potential "story" displayed in visible forms...It is the interface emerging/vanishing imaginary world between a sound and a musical note...
Synesthesia between sound and colors exist but also synesthesia could be between sound and forms...This specific synesthesia is probably more common and could be a great help in fine tuning a room with our ears....
Each series of notes is an history and a " being" with an expressive figure flowing, walking or swimming or flying in pure POTENTIAL meaning...
Pure POTENTIAL meaning being the dynamical interconnectedness of all the musical notes and the forms phenomena appearing to our eyes with it....
The sound not only convey POTENTIAL meaning though, but reflect also the way this meaning is communicated by pure acoustical 3-d incarnations of each sound reflecting itself the acoustical properties of your Speakers/room/ears...
POTENTIAL Meaning experienced is then perceived in a specific acoustical PERSPECTIVE and takes, related to your room geometry, topology, acoustical content, in furnitures and material treatment surfaces, but also experienced in the limits and the controlled way your system/speakers are WED to a room specifically designed for them by possible Helmholtz controls devices in my case or other possible acoustic devices....
Sound could be "seen" and must not be a surface ever, always a 3-d individualized body in space...It is the goal....
Anyway no sound comes from the speakers, save in a bad room... Sound is an expanding and rythmic sphere of living dynamic whose 2 centers are the speakers at one focus and yourself at the other focus....The 2 foci are interpenetrated rythmic beating hearts.... Because what belong to the specific characteristics of your speakers/system and what belong to your ears are coupled together.... This is my experience....
In this breathing ellipse, there, float like mobile islands on a sea, many pressures zones expressing and surging themselves in the encounter between speakers and ears/ room content and form....
This is my experience listening and seeing music....
How others perceive sound and music experience ?
This is why it is important to control in a relative way the acoustic of the room because the POTENTIAL meaning of the sound and music wedding, are often only a surface, or a distorted fraction of the potential acoustic perceived sphere in non controlled and non treated room INSTEAD of being a 3-D BEING....
Acoustic is the sleeping princess and all the pieces of gear are the 7 working dwarves... Be the prince and awake the princess...
I begin this thread for helping people to "IMAGINE" what could be musical/acoustic "ectasy" or "seeing"....
We always listen WITH our system THROUGH the controlled room/speakers the "recreated acoustic translation" of a past lived event which becme an ACTUAL different acoustical event ...
Most people think the opposite:
They think they listen WITH their uncontrolled room/speakers ,THROUGH their system the electronical "reproduction" of a lived PAST event....
Anyway there is no PERFECT FIDELITY between a lived event and a recorded one....The other complementary act of FIDELITY is in the way your speakers/room will translate and recreated some or all the choices which had taken place at the moment of the recorded event.... The recording information which is a surgical 2-d surface extract of the 3-d lived original lived event and the translation and recreation of it in your room in a 3-d Spheroid, is greatly determined by the relation between speakers/ears/room.... On par and sometimes more than by the choice of the gear itself...
Ok i am not a scientist at all....All my post is only " subjective impressions in me" linked to my material acoustical experiments journey...
I try to conveyed here my experience of the last 2 years in words....
You can speak to me about your experience and what you think...
Those whose brain cannot fathom " meaning" and are ideologically deaf could remain silent....
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Truly inspirational thread, Thank You! I've never expressed these experiences to my friends, I'm not sure they experience music on this level. I have never heard or read in this case, of people enjoying what is for me, the ultimate endpoint of musical enjoyment/interaction. For me, I feel this deeper, as someone above described, "visceral" experiencing of music, is a reconnecting to something we as a modern society seem to have lost; a connection to something ancient, from a time when the human race was not fixated on superficiality, and more the pursuit of inner enlightenment, and knowledge. To a time when, to quote a book, can't even remember what book it was, but this line has stuck in my head; "When we all lived in the forest, and nobody lived anywhere else...." Thanks again, this has made my day. Respect! |
At its best, music is a language. Proper reproduction of it makes it easier to understand & enjoy. Synesthesia has been described by both John McLaughlin and Robert Fripp, and experienced by composers Messiaen, Skryabin, and Liszt, along with others. Some say it is related to perfect pitch: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3596158/ |
Truly inspirational thread, Thank You! Thanks it is a great joy to be the origin of a small joy indeed.... |
At its best, music is a language.Your point about music being a language itself is deep and the fact that language is music itself go even deeper.... Thanks very much for this paper which confirm my experience and intuition.... Me deepest respect.... |
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