Have you moved away from full range to standmount speakers + subs?

Wow, this thread seems to be heading down the tracks on the crazy train!

I've had some large efficient floor standing speakers (and used them with 4 subs), but they were just too much for my space and I have since moved mainly to monitors - Harbeth Super HL5 Plus, P3ESR, Stirling LS3/5, and Kef Ref 1s. 

It has a lot more to do with the type of presentation / sound I prefer than the size of the speaker or what's amplifying them.  Which isn't to say those things don't come into play.  I recently put some different amps in my system and was pleasantly surprised by the difference they made. 

I recently picked up a pair of Thiel CS 2.3 floor standing speakers and have been really enjoying those.  Their smaller size and design works really well in my room.

The best system I've heard so far had speakers 8 feet tall.  Part of the fun of this hobby is trying different things and keeping an open mind and not deciding it has to be this vs. that.  

In regards to the derailment of the thread, all I can say is that when a manufacturer or dealer comes into a thread and presents facts about a situation they've been questioned about or educational information and deals with others in a respectful and professional manner, my respect for them grows.  If they show up denigrating members and putting down their systems and threating legal action, well... I'll steer clear and spend my earnings elsewhere.  

Match the speakers to the size of the room. What’s the size of the room?

I’m not sure what qualifies as a "full range" speaker. Perhaps one that goes down to 20 - 25 Hz ± 3dB? I’ve never owned large speakers with drivers more than 10" in my life. I’ve owned some Sonus Faber floorstanders but I’m more of a standmount guy. All my current speakers are standmounts, going down to 38 and 40 Hz and I love them for what they do. I don’t like to use subs with speakers although I own a rather high quality sub.

To me, a speaker that is able to go down to 40 Hz ± 3dB on paper is the minimum requirement in providing adequate bass satisfaction. Anything 50 Hz or higher don’t cut it for me. Having said that, I’ve read about people describing the wonderful bass produced by their small bookshelves and how it is perfectly adequate for them. These bookshelf speakers have 5" drivers, reaching down to 60 or 65 Hz or so in the bass. People have different expectations so I would not be surprised to hear about folks preferring smaller speakers in their medium to large rooms.

By the way, the Buchardt S400 MKII recommended by Tvad looks good. It has a passive radiator located at the rear of the speaker which boosts bass response. The Marten Parker Duo also works on this same principle.

In my relatively small room (13' x 21', listening on the short axis on one side of the room), I am using 2 small standmounts (Harbeth P3Rs) and one small REL T/5 floor firing sub. I find having a seperate sub useful in order to move it around to get the most satisfying bass response (something you can't do with floorstanders).
Note that my speakers start to fall off at around 75Hz, and are present but lacking in anything below around 65Hz.  They do an admirable job of carrying the musical load without the sub, but gently adding a touch of bottom end really fills out the tonal spectrum (as I nudge up the crossover and balance the volume of the T/5 you can hear the presentation grow in size - the effect is not subtle, and the result is amazing).

Things would be a lot more polite and correct if everyone was forced to use their own name for a handle.

Respect and proper behavior would emerge.

Not this total mess we have come to have on internet forums.

If someone attacks, and one party uses their own name and company connection, the attacker/other should be doing the same.

Otherwise, the attackers integrity (the one with hidden origins) is, IMO and IME, quite suspect, to say the least.

This would never hold up in court, or in a given city or municipalities public meeting and so on. Not in an academic environment, not even at a meeting in a bar ...or even with a few people on the street.

Such behavior of being hidden from view and verbally/etc stabbing others violently, in such ways, is no less a problem and societal/cultural point of shame and personal degradation... than any other deeply, strongly and widely opposed human incorrectness.

I do note that the vast bulk of such nasty anti-societal (literally inhumane, uncivilized, barbaric - by all measure) behaviors are coming from those who attack audio tweaks and high end audio ideals and aspirations in product works and design.

Nope, full range plus subs.