Ridiculous assertions that someone is being ripped off or conned


How many times has this scenario played out here? Someone purchases product X, and tries it in their system. They report positive results, that it works as advertised, that they got their money’s worth, that they are happy with the purchase. Then someone, usually having zero experience with the product, replies with something like: “No, you’ve got it all wrong! You’re being ripped off! You’re being conned!


Does anyone else understand how ridiculous and absurd these kinds of assertions are?! The consumer who actually put up their own money and took the time to evaluate the product in their own home/system reports it works as advertised, they are happy with it, that they got their money’s worth. Then someone else claims they were ripped off?!


Imagine an agency investigating consumer fraud getting a complaint like this: “My neighbor is being ripped off!” “No, no, he thinks it’s great, does everything he expected it to. He’s very happy with it, but I just know he’s being conned!” Do you seriously think they’re going to open any kind of investigation into it?


You can disagree with what someone says about the effectiveness of a product all you want, but to say they have been defrauded, when they report the exact opposite, is patently ridiculous.


tommylion

"Tommylion, do yourself a favor and save up your money for a good set of speakers. You’ll get a lot more bang for yur money."


I have a good set of speakers, thank you very much. In fact they are some of the best I have heard, and have received many very positive reviews over the years. Why do you arrogantly assume that I don’t?

I have said which speakers I have in previous posts, if you care to investigate. I am purposefully not saying here, so this doesn’t turn into a discussion about speakers.

 

I think many in this group tend to split hairs on trying to improve their system.  I think it would be very beneficial to use the knowledge in this group and discuss what is the next step to improve their system.  For example, do I buy better speakers, buy better speaker wires, better amplifier, better streamer, etc.  I am at that point right now.  Another question is who do you believe.  The one thing I have discovered is there are many people who simply do not know what they are talking about.  It would be fun to have discussions on this.  There is a tremendous amount of knowledge in this group.  

noromance said: "I like Geoff and miss him on the forum. Hope he's well. However this article is out there. Maybe he's a genius and knows things we don't. Or not."

Geoff is alive and well over at Audio Asylum.

 

Tommylion, wonderful. I am sure there are things you can do with your room that will make an improvement. For starts get yourself a good measurement system like this one below and have a look at what your system is actually doing. It will also point out where you can make improvements. If there are issues you can not fix with room treatments you might start getting involved with DSP. There are many great processors now for reasonable money.                                                                                                                  

It’s pure psychology.

Suppose someone just shelled out $6000 for a 100 gram can of rhino horn powder because he has a firm belief in it’s aphrodisiac powers. He’ll be happy with the purchase.

Others, who never tried rhino horn powder themselves, may warn him he’s being scammed. And yes, he may think that annoying because he’s perfectly happy with his purchase. And maybe it even worked, that’s the power of our mind. And if it didn’t, he’ll probably never admit it ... he’ll still write raving reviews.

How bad is it that some rational thinking people doubt the use of rhino horn powder because it’s totally unclear if and how it works and it has never been scientifically proven?

I know, I know ... even if things can not be scientifically proven or can be measured, we still can hear differences in audio ’quality’.