2. misc-audio
  3. 170711-84906

Adding a “safe haven” forum for discussion of tweaks?

I think we can all agree that threads about tweaks like fuses, stones, mats, power conditioners etc. stir up all kinds of controversy, conflict and ill will.

 

Short of banning discussion of these controversial topics, is there another solution to this problem?

 

I got this idea from teo_audio’s comments about a solution implemented at Canuck audio on another thread:

 

“Canuck audio tames it by having a cable and tweak area for threads. Where any counter to the idea that such things are functional (in attempt or in analysis), is not tolerated.

 

Meaning.. threads where people discuss tweaks, or mods or cables and so on, if a naysayer posts there, and interrupts the discussion, in any way, they get their posts deleted. And...if the given naysayer can’t hold their tongue, after said deletion-ish warnings..... they will, rapidly, via any repeats in behavior, find themselves banned from the forum. They have to grow up, or get lost.”

 

You may not like parts of his description, but I think the idea has real merit.

 

I propose a new “safe haven” sub-forum, with some special rules, for the discussion of tweaks. These rules would ONLY apply to this specific sub-forum, the current rules would continue as they are in all other areas.

 

The special rules would be along these lines:

 

Posts that categorically deny the possibility of tweaks having any effect or value are not allowed.

 

Posts proclaiming tweaks to be “scams” “cons” etc. are not allowed.

 

Posts that directly state, or imply, that another poster is lying, are not allowed.

 

Posts that make absolute negative statements like “Science proves it can’t work.” are not allowed.

 

Posts demanding measurements, controlled listening tests etc. are not allowed.

 

Posts that express skepticism (without making absolute negative statements), ask tough questions, or request more information are welcome.

 

Of course, some who hold the above opinions may object, but they would still be able to express those opinions in all other parts of the forum, just like they always have.

 

What do you think?

tommylion
mahgister's avatar
mahgister
13,181 posts
 

This proposition about "tweaks" "safe haven" reflect one of the reason why i called my homemade "tweaks", instead of the word "tweaks":

«audio system three embeddings set of controls»...

Because my homemade "tweaks" suggested to me a method of listenings experiments...

We may segregate tweaks or bashing them, one by one, we cannot segregate a method...We dont need a safe haven for a method but to argue rationally about it...

Tweaks are not a method,but debatable more or less "useful" devices...They are perceived erroneously like secondary additions because they are counted separately of each others...No method...

A method must adress all the thee working dimensions of an audio system...Mechanical,electrical and acoustical...It is not a secondary addition... A method is the primary factor for ANY gear at ANY price...

 

It is difficult to contradict this method...It is easy to verify but it takes time for the listening experiments...People throw more easily money than their own precious time...I am retired....😁😊

We could oppose to the relative efficiency of some specific "devices" i suggested in my thread but not to my method and his conclusion:

Dont upgrade it ever, BEFORE trying to rightfully embed your piece of gear...

 

 

I will also try poetry to convey my feeling:

 

My gear and my body are one,

And the music i have seen,

comes from my heart/room alone

Dont try to part the milk from the cream

 

 

 

«Your poetry is so much better than your prose that perhaps your prose is only bad poetry»-Groucho Marx 🤓

millercarbon's avatar
millercarbon
12,531 posts
 

All the sounds a stage, and we are record players.

No, wait.

Check out Hi-Fi George, he knows all the scourge.

Sorry. Sorry.

mahgister my friend you are astute. Why don't we get together and call ourselves an institute?

mahgister's avatar
mahgister
13,181 posts
 

Thanks for the offer...

But i dont like gang, even gang of two, ask my wife...😁😊

I always lived in my house without close neighbours, and i dont had a boss for almost all my life, in school, i befriend only the fools or the geniuses, and i am sick when i am in a crowd...I think i must be out of any institute to be healthy..... Sorry.... 

 

My best to you indeed....

 

P.S. i know very little about audio compared to many here, but the few things i know i experimented them myself...They are ONLY three basic essential embeddings... Nothing more...It is not engineering, not even refine acoustic science...Only basics...But basics are almost out of audio threads...

A newcomer with no clue about a method of listenings experiments will look instead for the next upgrade, insatisfied sometimes a life long.... I am not a member of any institute because i am not worthy of one ... I dont pretend to know much in audio, just enough to be happy now.... Then i spoke about my simplistic but efficient method to answer a need... To spare people money....

nonoise's avatar
nonoise
10,896 posts
 

There once was a listener from Boston,

Who wanted his sytem to sound awesome,

Try as he may,

And it took all day,

And then he had sound he was lost in.

 

 

Post removed 
More to discover